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I believe plastic shrouds have proven to be a non issue I personally replaced quite a few cracked and broken ones. The bolt shrouds don't break on their own. A broken shroud is not DANGEROUS to anyone. Mine is 13 yrs. old--still in tact. Jerry
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I wouldn't shoot a Tikka if you gave it to me. I hear you don't even have to pull the trigger to shoot a Remington. LMAO Trystan Lol I've read about that and all the accuracy issues with Remingtons on the internet, but have never experienced any of those issues with mine.
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I believe plastic shrouds have proven to be a non issue I personally replaced quite a few cracked and broken ones. The bolt shrouds don't break on their own. A broken shroud is not DANGEROUS to anyone. Mine is 13 yrs. old--still in tact. Jerry They break when being careless with disassembly. And Tikka changed it on the new model. I've yet to hear an ad on the radio for a Tikka shroud recall. 700 vs T3 30-06 vs 270 Yadda vs yadda Same old same old.
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I would take a tikka. I don't think the stocks are either rifle are great and don't care for the plastic trigger guard on the tikka but it's a relatively easy fix with the mountain tactical trigger guard which then makes it better than the Remington. The shroud is a nonissue now on the T3x since it's metal now.
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Tikka. I am a 700 fan, but I hate a safety that does not lock the bolt. This year, my Daughter almost lost a deer because the bolt got bumped up. Have often found the same on my newer Rem's. From now on it will only be my older 700's.
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I just don't really care for the balance on the 700 MR-series rifles, nor the Ti stock ergos. I actually prefer the standard sporter contour SPS SS. I'd take the money saved over the new MR SS rifle and put it toward a cut/crown if desired and a 2lb Timney 510. Then I'd float the tupperware and bed the action in Devcon. If I wanted to drop some money at a later time on a good stock, I'd order a McMillan, likely an Edge Classic. My luck with Remington SS factory barrels has always been pretty good when they are bedded.
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A guy at Beretta told me Tikka does not use Sako barrels. Owned by Sako, but different components altogether.
Was he mistaken?
P I think so, but it makes no matter given how they shoot.
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I wouldn't shoot a Tikka if you gave it to me. Don't worry, as easy as they sell, you will likely never be faced with that.
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[quote=JPro]I just don't really care for the balance on the 700 MR-series rifles, nor the Ti stock ergos. I actually prefer the standard sporter contour SPS SS. I'd take the money saved over the new MR SS rifle and put it toward a cut/crown if desired and a 2lb Timney 510. Then I'd float the tupperware and bed the action in Devcon. If I wanted to drop some money at a later time on a good stock, I'd order a McMillan, likely an Edge Classic. My luck with Remington SS factory barrels has always been pretty good when they are bedded[quote]
Can't argue that one bit.
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A guy at Beretta told me Tikka does not use Sako barrels. Owned by Sako, but different components altogether.
Was he mistaken?
P Unless I'm mistaken Mule Deer wrote recently that Sako makes the barrels for the Tikka. Jerry I remember the same thing Jerry. In fact I believe Mule Deer said he learned that while touring the Sako factory where Tikkas are built? Trystan YEP !
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I've looked at the upgrades on the T3x and they have made changes the public wanted. On the other hand, I would be reluctant to own a Rem. 700 until their trigger issue is thoroughly fixed.
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They fixed it, then recalled it again.....
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I've looked at the upgrades on the T3x and they have made changes the public wanted. On the other hand, I would be reluctant to own a Rem. 700 until their trigger issue is thoroughly fixed. You can always buy a 783... 
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Tikka, nice triggers, good barrels and excellent accuracy.
If you do go the T3 route, you may want to consider a leftover T3,(priced at $449-$550), over the T3x($700+) as prices are significantly less and the savings could help/pay for a decent stock upgrade.
Just grabbed another T3 SS Lite in 30-06; now thinking that might have been a mistake. Maybe I should have got the .270 or the 7RM ? LOL
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I've looked at the upgrades on the T3x and they have made changes the public wanted. On the other hand, I would be reluctant to own a Rem. 700 until their trigger issue is thoroughly fixed. This is where I am as well. I am a fan and owner of both brands, but always change trigger assembly on the 700. When you look for a custom trigger now days they're saying does not replace the new Remington triggers. This is the stopper for me! I would not want a "new" Remington until I could find a custom trigger assembly to replace the factory problem... Regarding Tikka, the only issue they have that I cannot live with is the recoil pads. This is an easy fix, just buy a "LimbSaver" prefit pad, unscrew the original with a phillips head, use the same factory screws for the replacement. It is a little freaky when you look at the removed factory pad and realize the interior is completely hard plastic X pattern with only about 1/8" thick covering of rubber facade they are passing off as "recoil" pad, almost fraud.
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I've looked at the upgrades on the T3x and they have made changes the public wanted. On the other hand, I would be reluctant to own a Rem. 700 until their trigger issue is thoroughly fixed. This is where I am as well. I am a fan and owner of both brands, but always change trigger assembly on the 700. When you look for a custom trigger now days they're saying does not replace the new Remington triggers. This is the stopper for me! I would not want a "new" Remington until I could find a custom trigger assembly to replace the factory problem... Regarding Tikka, the only issue they have that I cannot live with is the recoil pads. This is an easy fix, just buy a "LimbSaver" prefit pad, unscrew the original with a phillips head, use the same factory screws for the replacement. It is a little freaky when you look at the removed factory pad and realize the interior is completely hard plastic X pattern with only about 1/8" thick covering of rubber facade they are passing off as "recoil" pad, almost fraud. Just looked at a SS T3x , very nice gun.
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I have not yet had one in my hands, I have heard they are more grippy than the slippery T3 stock, but if they'e nicer than the T3, and with the price difference, may hold a bit of sway over the mountain TI.
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Tikka barrels made by Sako.
I read somewhere that the barrels come out the same box on the assembly line and can be fitted to either a Sako or a Tikka in no specific order.
I prefer Tikka to the 700. I know the 700 is a good action but the rifle needs finishing if to get the best out of it. That's not necessary with a Tikka.
As for triggers - how long have they been making 700s? And they STILL have a rubbish trigger on them! I cannot understand why they don't just go to Timmney or similar & get them to supply the trigger unit as they seem incapable of making a good one themselves.
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Tikka barrels made by Sako.
I read somewhere that the barrels come out the same box on the assembly line and can be fitted to either a Sako or a Tikka in no specific order.
I prefer Tikka to the 700. I know the 700 is a good action but the rifle needs finishing if to get the best out of it. That's not necessary with a Tikka.
As for triggers - how long have they been making 700s? And they STILL have a rubbish trigger on them! I cannot understand why they don't just go to Timmney or similar & get them to supply the trigger unit as they seem incapable of making a good one themselves. Because they probably save .50 cents on each trigger building it themselves. I guess it is cheaper to pay off lawsuits,lawyers and have your product trashed then doing it the right way. Remington has nice designs(except triggers) and has created great cartridges but otherwise are run by imbeciles and major league ones at that.
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