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Just curious how many here are waiting on a tax stamp for their suppressor. Obviously trying to beat the 41F deadline last July. I've got one from April and another from June. How many you got and when did you send off the form?
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SBR instead of a suppressor for me this time, but I'm waiting since June. (We had about a 2 week window between our SBR law going into effect and 41P.)
I originally assumed it would be about a year's wait, but now it looks hopeful for the end of this year.
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I'm waiting on four suppresses and one SBR. Did two suppresses and 1 SBR Second week of July. Then I did to suppress last week of July. I was told approximately eight months.
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Waiting on two from March 25, one from May 9 and a form 1 from June 20.
I'm close to 8 months on my March forms, my money is on >12 months for June and July submissions.
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Waiting on two from March 25, one from May 9 and a form 1 from June 20.
I'm close to 8 months on my March forms, my money is on >12 months for June and July submissions. I'm guessing I won't see anything for a year.
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My June submission is for an element 2 rimfire suppressor. I was really looking forward to using it before the end of deer season (not on deer of course  ) Oh well always next season.
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My first one took 7 month's to clear it was submitted February second who now's how long it was submitted July 7.
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Waiting on two from March 25, one from May 9 and a form 1 from June 20.
I'm close to 8 months on my March forms, my money is on >12 months for June and July submissions. After posting this, figured I'd check in with the ATF on mine first 2... My Silencerco Omega was approved on Oct 31, Sparrow still pending. Then, on the way home, FFL called and said he received my stamp today! So that was 7 1/2 months!
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One rimfire suppressor (Dead Air Mask) from March still floating in the breeze, but I believe that's mostly because of where I purchased.
3 others already at FFL, just waiting on stamps. (Another Dead Air Mask, Silencerco Omega, & Hybrid).
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One rimfire suppressor (Dead Air Mask) from March still floating in the breeze, but I believe that's mostly because of where I purchased.
3 others already at FFL, just waiting on stamps. (Another Dead Air Mask, Silencerco Omega, & Hybrid). Update. Long lost Dead Air Mask now enroute as of today.
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One rimfire suppressor (Dead Air Mask) from March still floating in the breeze, but I believe that's mostly because of where I purchased.
3 others already at FFL, just waiting on stamps. (Another Dead Air Mask, Silencerco Omega, & Hybrid). Update. Long lost Dead Air Mask now enroute as of today. Are you saying you bought it in March and it is just now shipping to your dealer? What happened?
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Yes. Exactly what I'm saying. The dealer has been jerking my chain (as well as many others). Finally got it shipped after threatening him with legal action.
In any case, it's on the way to my FFL.
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Yeah, I'd finally had enough. Even with a duplicate coming, I don't like the feeling when somebody's blowing colored smoke at me and I know it. He was swapping around serial numbers and doing other dumb stuff.
When I get to that point, I'll spend a couple to several grand to make a point with a dumbass.
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Yeah, I'd finally had enough. Even with a duplicate coming, I don't like the feeling when somebody's blowing colored smoke at me and I know it. He was swapping around serial numbers and doing other dumb stuff.
When I get to that point, I'll spend a couple to several grand to make a point with a dumbass. I have had two very BAD experiences with Class III dealers. Like...bad. Really bad. I have one more can in the works and then I'm done. Centerfire pistol. Clark
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Whispers this may pass with Trump...
Hearing Protection Act of 2015
This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code to: (1) eliminate the $200 transfer tax on firearm silencers, and (2) treat any person who acquires or possesses a firearm silencer as meeting any registration or licensing requirements of the National Firearms Act with respect to such silencer. Any person who pays a tax on a silencer after October 22, 2015 may receive a refund of such tax.
The bill amends the federal criminal code to preempt state or local laws that tax or regulate firearm silencers.
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They can keep my money just let me walk in, buy a suppressor and walk out with it. I'll even fill out a 4473 on it.
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Yeah, I'd finally had enough. Even with a duplicate coming, I don't like the feeling when somebody's blowing colored smoke at me and I know it. He was swapping around serial numbers and doing other dumb stuff.
When I get to that point, I'll spend a couple to several grand to make a point with a dumbass. I have had two very BAD experiences with Class III dealers. Like...bad. Really bad. I have one more can in the works and then I'm done. Centerfire pistol. Clark I need a centerfire pistol can, too. One that'll handle 9mm (and .45 ACP maybe). I think I'm also done then.
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They can keep my money just let me walk in, buy a suppressor and walk out with it. I'll even fill out a 4473 on it. It's just a muffler, we shouldn't even need a 4473. You don't have to do title paperwork on your car's muffler, why should you on a gun? I think the only reason silencers are considered firearms by the ATF was just a work around so they could regulate and tax them; if that's eliminated, there's no reason for any of the paperwork. It should be just like buying a scope or any other accessory.
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(2) treat any person who acquires or possesses a firearm silencer as meeting any registration or licensing requirements of the National Firearms Act with respect to such silencer.
I am pretty sure in legal-eeze that means 4473.
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[quote=TWR]They can keep my money just let me walk in, buy a suppressor and walk out with it. I'll even fill out a 4473 on it. It's just a muffler, we shouldn't even need a 4473. You don't have to do title paperwork on your car's muffler, why should you on a gun? I think the only reason silencers are considered firearms by the ATF was just a work around so they could regulate and tax them; if that's eliminated, there's no reason for any of the paperwork. It should be just like buying a scope or any other accessory. [/quot That would be sweet Hank
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Curious where a home built would fit in there.
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I'm told the NRA has a 6 hour meeting with the Donald scheduled to discuss 4 items-- 1. suppressor requirements 2. SBR requirements. 3&4 concerning veteran issues
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Hope that's a constructive meeting!
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WooHoo! I just got the call on my April 1st submission, Omega 30cal. One down and one to go!
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Will be very interested in a range report on the Omega. Have one in waiting at FFL for a month and a half to two months now.
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I have shot my Omega on a 204,556,6.8 spc,6X6.8 and very impressed.
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Deere, do you change the end cap for the smaller calibers or just leave as is?
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Just picked mine up Sunday, ready to give a try!
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I have just left it as is but I do have the flat cap in the 223 diameter and the flat cap in the 30 cal just haven't changed them yet.
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All this Omega talk is getting me antsy. My 7.62 stamps should be clearing any time now, hopefully.
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I keep the .30 cal flat cap on my Omega, even with .223 it still sounds great. I'm afraid if I swapped end caps between rifles I would eventually have a brain fart and send a .308 round through that .223 cap.
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I would like to see sbr changes
Not sure they are worth a stamp but no stamp I would be,playing with them
If a,change bet 10in uppers would be a hot item
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I keep the .30 cal flat cap on my Omega, even with .223 it still sounds great. I'm afraid if I swapped end caps between rifles I would eventually have a brain fart and send a .308 round through that .223 cap. Yeah that is a good point, that would be a little messy 
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I would like to see sbr changes
Not sure they are worth a stamp but no stamp I would be,playing with them
If a,change bet 10in uppers would be a hot item
Hank Well, at least the good thing with AR's is SBR'ing one lower, and then ability to have multiple short bbl'ed uppers.
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This one is a silly pistol, but it should make a great rifle in about a month (hopefully). ![[Linked Image]](http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/supercrewd/IMG_6081%20Edited_zpsbmzdxy0s.jpg)
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My Form 4 with Trust for a SAS Reaper MX
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Waiting on my dealer to call and pick it up. Gun season opens Saturday and I'm leaving tomorrow evening for my lease go figure!!
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Congrats! What did you have to correct?
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My FFL dealer's license number had changed since the Form 4 was submitted and they had to give the valid number.
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Just got my stamp for my Silencerco Sparrow. Paperwork was submitted on March 25 along with the paperwork for my Omega, which came in a couple of weeks ago. Based on those two, 7.5-8 months now for approvals. Still have a Form 4 for an Osprey and a Form 1 for an SBR outstanding.
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I'm told the NRA has a 6 hour meeting with the Donald scheduled to discuss 4 items-- 1. suppressor requirements 2. SBR requirements. 3&4 concerning veteran issues I sure hope they talk about removing gun-smithing from the ITAR. Sycamore
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one only suppressor 7-1/2-8 months
shipped from stock to the dealer and my dealer was perfectly willing to rent me range time to play with it.
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I mailed the first one on a new trust on 4/15/16, and picked it up yesterday. Ihave another about a month later, and one from July after 41F.
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Cool!
I have one left from mid-May, was hoping to have it and my SBR form 1 approvals by end of Jan.
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I think your expectation is realistic. Seems like 8 months is the norm at present.
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BATFE cashed my check on 4-15, approved on 11-27, and my FFL says he still hasn't received it from BATFE. I called them Friday asked nicely if it was mailed, and the jerk just kept harshly stating they have 30 days to mail it.
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As I and at least one other fire member (Flave) have found out the hard way (and now you), there are some douchenozzles in the suppressor business.
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As I and at least one other fire member (Flave) have found out the hard way (and now you), there are some douchenozzles in the suppressor business. Very true. Luckily here in the Liberal Capitol of Texas, we have 2 really good dealers--Silencer Shop and Capitol Armory. I've used Capitol Armory for my last 5 or 6 purchases, and will continue to do so. My latest purchase was mailed May 10th and I'm still waiting.
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As I and at least one other fire member (Flave) have found out the hard way (and now you), there are some douchenozzles in the suppressor business. I've used Capitol Armory for my last 5 or 6 purchases, and will continue to do. Word to the wise. Just don't use Colonial Armory.
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Ruger280, did you ever post a range report on the Omega .30 cal?
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I picked up my Sparrow SS last Wednesday. I mailed it on 7/23/16. It went pending on 8/1/16. The dealer got it the Thursday before Labor Day, but did not notify me until the day after Labor Day.
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FYI- the number I found to call NFA to check status of your Form 4's. 7 a.m. to 4:45 p.m. West Virginia. EST.
304-616-4500
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Called NFA today. My stamps are a long way out. Partly because of my trust and partly because of errors in the adminstration of such.
I will pass on a couple facts I learned during a long conversation with a very nice person at NFA.
1. August 2016 Form 4 approvals are nearing completion.
2. Single person Form 4's are processed faster than trusts.
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Picked up Silencerco Omega and stamp today. Docs signed March.2017. Have been doing my cans in a trust. This one was no different.
17 months.
All background checks now being done by FBI.
Average times start to finish now running 4-7 months, possibly longer with trusts, according to my FFL/LGS owner.
Happy to finally get the Omega home. The Ruger Predator 6.5 Creed (among others) has been patiently waiting.
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Happy to finally get the Omega home. The Ruger Predator 6.5 Creed (among others) has been patiently waiting.
I bet you'll like that combo. Different suppressors but same rifle for me; I find it very pleasant to shoot suppressed, and noticeably quieter than the AR stuff.
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Yondering, thanks. Looking forward to getting out and shooting it. Have quietly and methodically been buildimg a decent stash of good ammo for the Creed while waiting on the can. All bought on sale.
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Maybe pick up some more if I fimd good deals on Labor Day sales.
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