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darrenk75b turned me onto the Bat action screws when I halfway hogged out my Kimber screws and they are the best thing going for a heavy handed guy such as myself/yourself. Give them a look.

Good to know about the Bat screws... I chit you not, the rear screw would not budge, fresh out of the box. Rounded off two hex bits, then the screw head. It took drilling the head off to get the stock off and out of the way and 10" Vice grips clamped on uber-tight to turn the SOB. The threads on the screw were buggered looking... Action threads looked good, thankfully. Mighta been a good one to send to NY, and some guys roll that way... I can accept my mag box tweaking went to heck, but that rear screw - that was all Yonkers. LOL

Should have talked nicer to it.

The Bat screws have a DEEP hex and it is WAY tight compared to the Rem/Kimber crap. Got em on a few and will have em on more.

I was! All the way home I was calling it Sweet Stuff... Now - LilGF....

Quality Control must be so lax to allow these rifles to head out the door. A supervisor in QC should be kicking azz in order to shape them up. I still think it is the best buy for my purposes but this is just plain carelessness in the final assembly and inspection departments.
I asked a question recently on the Handgun section about QC with their autos and a few piped with problems too. It should be embarrassing to them when you seldom read about a problem with Sako/Tikka and even BACO Winchesters.

How about the 6.5 Creedmoor Hunters? Any problems with them?

This is normal for Kimber.

They either hire bad people or employees get disgruntled with management and will sabotage a line.

I wouldn't draw a single conclusion with that one good group -

Your others are all really bad. If there is a node, it's not much of one at the good group and is too narrow. I'd be a bit leery. YMMV....

I'd shoot again multiple times at distance too -

Saw some new Kimber Montana's in the LGS recently with a big tag on the trigger saying "MOA Guarantee"..
Guess they were just kidding?

Upon closer look, mine had a lot of pressure right at the shank. I had to sand down through a layer of cloth to get full float. Did a full bedding, tang to lug with JB Quick. Did some shooting to sight in over the hood of the rig with a box of Hornady American Whitetail 129 IL. Not uber, 3-shot 1.25, 4-shot cool 1.5", 4-shot hot 1.75". Wasn't calm but fairly steady wind.

Are my comments meant to degrade? NO, absolutely not. It's a production rifle, I happened to get one with a couple things to overcome. I very much like this rifle. Other than the material chosen for the follower, I think it's excellent engineering. It's not the first mag well I have bent to hell, LOL. The trigger is very good.

I really dig the stock! It's light, slim, straight yet rounded, smooth uniform texture, without checkering or ridges and incredibly firm. To me, it is the final evolution of classic Kimber hunting stock lines and I would not change it in any way whatsoever...

I just don't get the "light rifle needs a light scope". To me, this light of a rifle allows one to use a burly scope and still have a light rifle package. Balance is great with the SWFA 6x. Can you believe people are bitching Lapua is going small primer? As if Lapua doesn't know WTF?

On to handloads and hoping for consistent, three-shot MOA groups fired in succession (without a bunch of cooling time.) Absolutely love the cartridge and very glad I upgraded from the Hunter I was looking at. This is a featherweight, I expect some work to get accuracy and sure as hell didn't buy it based upon a hangtag.

agreed

I mean I like it so much I took it to bed with me last night....

Not really. You can't fault a manufacture due to someone's shooting ability (or lack thereof with a light rifle).

The moa guarantee is with premium factory ammo and a very skilled shooter.

The more I think about it the more the 6.5 Creed makes sense. Having brass options now really sweetens the deal. Might go 100gr TTSX at 3200 for the wife during the rut, and 143s during alpine season.

Decided to go with the Leupold 6x42, as I've got a pile of them with M1 turrets. Have one with a CDS and dots, might use that one too, or put that one on my Montana 300wsm.

I want one of these for my daughter in the 6.5 creed but I think I will go the kimber hunter route..

They know about the issues, they're just in denial. It does appear that the number of bad guns has diminished quite a bit from the good old days, but still... you'd think they'd do a better job of checking their guns before they left the factory.

Show's potential.... I cleaned up my bedding job and verified free-float. Fits great! It's a joy having a quality stock this stiff. I know they've been out for years but this is my first...

Short version:
I did some pretty random testing today using Nosler 140 CCs. Nothing shot bad IMO for how windy it was. The star of the day was IMR4451 producing 3-shot trifectas at 0.36" and 0.63" after it calmed down. Will continue working with this combo.

I'm pleased.

Oh I definitely wouldn't consider this the holy grail of loads. I should have specified that this was shooting under the tonneau cover of my truck with some rolled up towels as a rest. From getting the gun to needing copper loads ready to hunt was 3 days, so I was a bit pressed for time. I'll get on a proper shooting bench this week. That said, I'll take .4xx" at 100 yards any day from a very lightweight hunting rifle.

Additional sub-3/4MOA 3- and 4-shot groups outa mine today. Not all of them, but enough to keep it interesting.

Followup on the $40 7/16-28 brake. It arrived. I drilled it out, just the absolute far end needs it. Used a 9/32" drill for .017" overbore and reamed a bit too for good measure. Seems to clear just right. Fit is not absolutely flush but within a hair oversize. Perfectenough. Have not used a brake before. Hoping for a bit less muzzle jump. New 12x going on for load testing. Stock in the paintshop. Awaiting bullets and mag box. Trigger adjusted down to very light. 100% glad I went with the upgrade from the plastic stock. Will try for a better pic later.


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Blasted it and the TG, will coat eventually. The brake is flush to the touch now.