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What's your go to barrel cleaner? Pulled out my encore barrel today and it had the slightest amount of surface rust in it. One patch through it and it was clean and shiny again, but I want something to prevent it from rusting again. I usually clean with the thompson center cleaner and run a patch of hoppes down the barrel.
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The cleaning solvent will depend on the powder being used. I want something to prevent it from rusting again If you do a good job cleaning and drying it the first time any good synthetic oil works just fine at preventing rust during storage. Ballistol, Eezox, Barricade, Slip2000...you name it. They all work well if its clean and dry before applying your oil. If you want to make sure its dry just give the bore a good shot of WD40, HEET or Brake Clean. They will displace water quickly. Ultra Bore Coat which is now called Dyna-Tek is another layer of protection. It bonds to the metal kinda like Cerakote and helps seal it. Some people swear by it especially if using T7 powder. http://store.dyna-tek.com/Muzzleloader-Kit-p/gn-muzzleloader.htm
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2 in 1 bore scrubber for deep cleaning when i shoot copper/lead/plastic.
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The cleaning solvent will depend on the powder being used. I want something to prevent it from rusting again If you do a good job cleaning and drying it the first time any good synthetic oil works just fine at preventing rust during storage. Ballistol, Eezox, Barricade, Slip2000...you name it. They all work well if its clean and dry before applying your oil. If you want to make sure its dry just give the bore a good shot of WD40, HEET or Brake Clean. They will displace water quickly. Ultra Bore Coat which is now called Dyna-Tek is another layer of protection. It bonds to the metal kinda like Cerakote and helps seal it. Some people swear by it especially if using T7 powder. http://store.dyna-tek.com/Muzzleloader-Kit-p/gn-muzzleloader.htm I run Goex FFg and FFFg. No fouling problems; no corrosion problems.
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I must be old school, but I like hot water and Dawn to clean. After is clean and dry I do barricade as a rust preventive.
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I was replying to the OP. He asked 2 questions. One for a cleaner and one for prevention of future rusting.
I dont use the same cleaner for Swiss as i do for Blackhorn. Ultra Bore Coat is not a cleaner but can aid in prevention and protection after it is clean.
Any coating can wear off over time. Using a good synthetic oil after every cleaning is sound advice whether the bore is coated or not.
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I must be old school, but I like hot water and Dawn to clean. After is clean and dry I do barricade as a rust preventive.
That is all ive used for ages when shooting real black or subs. Blackhorn209 is the exception. Its fouling should be cleaned just like any smokeless powder. Pick whatever CF cleaner you like. They all work but some work better than others. Montana Xtreme works great but the fumes are brutal. Ballistol is one of the few solvents that can clean both. Its not perfect but it works and the fumes are not nearly as bad. I really like to use it after using soap and water when im away from home.
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I'm using Blackhorn 209 powder so it's a lot cleaner. I'm wondering if I just didn't get enough oil in the barrel to protect the bare metal.
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Hot soapy water, dry, and oil with Breakfree. Then again I have never in my life used anything other than Holy Black...
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Water ... room temp, NEVER warmer to hot!
SOLVENT
If I need to use a solvent, Butch's 'Bore Shine' for black powdah is phenomenal, best I have ever used!
STORAGE
Short-term: Ballistol.
Long-term: Birchwood Casey's 'Barricade' product.
Ultra-Long-term: RIG grease.
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CLEAN
Water ... room temp, NEVER warmer to hot!
SOLVENT
If I need to use a solvent, Butch's 'Bore Shine' for black powdah is phenomenal, best I have ever used!
STORAGE
Short-term: Ballistol.
Long-term: Birchwood Casey's 'Barricade' product.
Ultra-Long-term: RIG grease.
^^^^^ This is probably the best advice if using Blackhorn. When you first start to clean the fouling push a dry patch all the way through the bore a couple times. That will remove most of the loose fouling. Then start using a solvent.
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For Blackhorn, I was using 2 in 1 Birchwood-Casey Bore Scrubber and Slip 2000EWL for protectant.
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Ballistol cleans my "stainless" H&R's very well.
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I oil the barrels in the off season, never during season as it significantly changes my POI on the first shot. I will swab my barrels if they go from below freezing to above freezing.
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Amsoil powerfoam, plug bore and foam it up. By far the best stuff i've found. Its made to remove carbon from engines.
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