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probably weighs 30 oz. someone needs to beat glock in the weight department. I bet this pistol doesn't really come close. on edit it looks like its going to be 26 oz. which is 2.5 oz heavier than a glock 19. after what 30 years no one beats glock in the weight department.

I also don't like the idea of them making the gun also available in 40, I think a gun that is sized to fit no bigger than 9mm would be a better attempt at competing with glock in weight and size. as time goes by there seems to be more of a move away from 40 and back to 9mm anyways.

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
probably weighs 30 oz. someone needs to beat glock in the weight department. I bet this pistol doesn't really come close. on edit it looks like its going to be 26 oz. which is 2.5 oz heavier than a glock 19. after what 30 years no one beats glock in the weight department.

I also don't like the idea of them making the gun also available in 40, I think a gun that is sized to fit no bigger than 9mm would be a better attempt at competing with glock in weight and size. as time goes by there seems to be more of a move away from 40 and back to 9mm anyways.

I'd trade a couple of ounces for that minimal muzzle flip that I see in the video.
And a decent trigger...4.4 lbs. or something.

Also it supposedly fits into a G19 holster.
Pretty blatant assault on Glock's marketshare.

New pistols often are introduced in 9mm because that's where the market is.
.40's and .45's follow.

Looking like the .40 has hit it's high water mark if all the .40 police trade-ins are any indication.


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Who knows if it's a better Glock than Glock's. Maybe it is, but already having Glocks I'm not going to start chasing rainbows every time someone comes out with a hyped competitor. Let it establish a 20 or 30 year track record, like Glock.


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