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I ordered a 5" smith & wesson in 460 today, you can shoot 45 colt, 454 casull, or S&W 460 through it. 45 colt for practice, that a easy one.
But for carrying when hiking or bow hunting 454 or 460? I dont have any experience with ether. Looking at the reloading manuals the 460 case is longer but the powders used are a little slower so both cartridges push 300 Gr. bullets about the same speed. So I'm thinking the 454 might get higher velocity out of the 5" bbled revolver I ordered( faster powder/ short bbl). I've got a couple of other guns to work up loads for and work
will get in the way so I wont get to do and comparisons at the range for a while.

I'd go with 395 grain hard cast wide flatpoint ( Cast Performance Bullet Co.)in the 460. They shot well for me,now I'll be using my own cast 400's,similar to the Cast Performance. But, that's just me!!! It's my preferred bullet in my 8 3/8" for everything, except plinking. memtb

Umm, no. They're only going to run the same speed if the 460 is downloaded. Some of the manuals do show downloaded 460 data, especially lead bullet loads.

Regardless of barrel length, 454 is not going to give you higher velocity unless it's loaded hotter. It's a shorter case, and both can be loaded to the same pressure, obviously less capacity = slower. There is no advantage to using the shorter 454 case in these guns, other than just ammo availability.

If you're loading your own, just use 460 brass and load it to whatever power level you want. That's a much better system than using brass that's too short for the chamber, making the bullet jump across a gap before entering the throat.

Just a word of advice - don't shoot factory 45 Colt lead bullet cowboy loads in your 460 unless you want to spend a bunch of time cleaning the cylinder before shooting 460 again. You can expect significant lead/fouling buildup in the front of the chamber.

I have yet to meet a .460 that shoots .45 Colt and .454 Casull well. Too much of a jump. The .460 has a 1.8-inch long case. I would suggest loading the .460 down if lower velocities are desired. It's not a terribly efficient cartridge. It will push heavy and light bullets to good velocities, but with mid-range bullet weights, it doesn't run away from the .454 by a whole lot, especially if you load the .454 to spec. Personally, if you are not planning on long shots on game (and you probably aren't judging by the choice of a 5-inch version), you would probably be better served with a smaller revolver in .454 or .45 Colt.

It won't take long for you to start looking for a good load in the hot 45 Colt category. The 454 can be pretty obnoxious and the 460 is just too much fun for me.

And virtually any and every .45 Colt will be easier to pack and carry.

The thing with throttling down large cases, you typically don't get the accuracy you will with a smaller case run at the same level.

I can get the 460 as a long barreled scoped revolver for long range work, for a short barreled open sight revolver not so much.

The 460 case is great for shot shells though!

I wanted this revolver to carry in the woods when I'm not caring a rifle, I don't intend to hunt with it. I'll load it with heavy 460s for packing but most of the time I'll shoot jacketed 45 colt out of it.
Yondering; thanks for the advise about not shooting lead 45 colt though this gun.

Thanks
Jamie

However, getting your bullet from a 1.28-inch case to make the jump to the forcing cone is an even worse recipe for accuracy in my humble opinion. That X-frame doesn't kick a whole lot even with heavy loads, the one exception to that rule in my experience being the CorBon 395 grain load that is a bit "snappy" (that's a technical term).

He was talking about cowboy action-type loads. If the gun is to serve as a backup weapon, you could get something a lot lighter and easier to pack -- unless you've already bought it. Unless you intend to throttle it up as it was intended, the X-frame makes for a lousy .45 Colt of .454 Casull.

Now, if you simply like X-frames, knock yourself out and don't let anyone discourage you.

glad to help, just sharing from experience. My 460 came with a bunch of ammo, including a couple boxes of 45 Colt lead cowboy loads; a couple cylinders of those and the subsequent cleaning was all it took to realize that isn't worth it. They didn't shoot to point of aim anyway, even up close, so no big loss.

Cartridge : .460 S&W Magnum
Bullet : .452, 300, Hornady XTP MAG 45235
Useable Case Capaci: 47.512 grain H2O = 3.085 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.300 inch = 58.42 mm
Barrel Length : 5.0 inch = 127.0 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60190 psi, or 414 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Rottweil R910 98.3 39.8 2.58 1628 99.4 60190 22743 0.393 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 94.5 43.0 2.79 1627 98.0 60190 24029 0.405 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 296 93.8 44.1 2.86 1625 89.9 60190 24875 0.405 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110 94.6 44.5 2.88 1604 93.1 60190 23415 0.405 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 101.4 44.4 2.88 1601 89.9 60190 23069 0.400 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400 88.6 36.8 2.39 1593 97.8 60190 21774 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 30 105.0 40.5 2.62 1592 95.6 59759 21979 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 87.2 39.0 2.53 1589 98.4 60190 21609 0.402 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744 100.0 41.9 2.72 1588 85.1 60190 22301 0.389 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D060 102.4 41.9 2.72 1588 85.1 60190 22301 0.389 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 512 93.1 39.0 2.53 1587 98.3 60190 21541 0.402 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D063 97.0 44.3 2.87 1584 84.9 60190 21869 0.389 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 90.2 40.8 2.64 1583 95.8 60190 21481 0.399 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S040 94.8 37.0 2.40 1576 97.8 60190 20609 0.393 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110 105.0 39.0 2.53 1574 97.7 57741 21701 0.409 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R123 83.4 36.5 2.37 1571 100.0 60190 20315 0.420 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.9 78.8 36.6 2.37 1571 99.2 60190 20221 0.395 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D037.2 78.0 36.6 2.37 1571 99.2 60190 20221 0.395 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680 105.0 48.0 3.11 1564 78.4 58604 21717 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 94.0 33.5 2.17 1563 100.0 60190 19400 0.394 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D037.1 71.1 33.6 2.18 1559 100.0 60190 19105 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.7 71.6 33.6 2.18 1559 100.0 60190 19105 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2205 101.8 42.4 2.75 1557 93.2 60190 20332 0.392 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 24 79.2 31.1 2.02 1548 100.0 60190 18240 0.392 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S265 105.0 42.2 2.74 1541 91.5 57636 20681 0.408 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant POWER PISTOL 78.8 27.4 1.77 1532 100.0 60190 17470 0.391 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N105 91.2 31.3 2.03 1531 100.0 60190 17361 0.403 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N38 88.9 31.7 2.06 1530 100.0 60190 17360 0.395 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S221 68.1 31.1 2.02 1519 100.0 60190 17014 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227 105.0 42.1 2.73 1511 84.8 52622 20598 0.416
Hodgdon H4227 105.0 42.1 2.73 1495 84.7 49888 20720 0.427
ADI AP 100 96.0 29.0 1.88 1494 100.0 60190 15754 0.390 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D036 61.0 27.6 1.79 1490 100.0 60190 15697 0.391 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.5 61.0 27.6 1.79 1490 100.0 60190 15690 0.391 ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex brown 61.0 27.6 1.79 1490 100.0 60190 15689 0.391 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P806 80.0 35.1 2.27 1487 100.0 60190 16396 0.412 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S053 105.0 41.2 2.67 1472 88.4 48234 20544 0.444
Hodgdon HS-6 66.0 28.6 1.85 1461 100.0 60190 14663 0.393 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 90 89.6 27.1 1.76 1455 100.0 60190 14563 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N37 80.6 27.2 1.77 1451 100.0 60190 14393 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Longshot 63.1 27.8 1.80 1449 100.0 60190 14275 0.393 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot True Blue 62.5 27.8 1.80 1447 100.0 60190 14222 0.393 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 504 63.5 27.8 1.80 1447 100.0 60190 14222 0.393 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 540 61.5 27.8 1.80 1446 100.0 60190 14199 0.393 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N350 83.6 26.7 1.73 1444 100.0 60190 14081 0.395 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant HERCO 92.6 25.4 1.65 1440 100.0 60190 14275 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N125 105.0 42.7 2.77 1439 84.3 44245 20451 0.460
PB Clermont PCL 501 69.4 26.4 1.71 1427 100.0 60190 13780 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 20 86.6 25.4 1.65 1422 100.0 60190 13602 0.399 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WAP 68.5 26.1 1.69 1422 100.0 60190 13568 0.394 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BULLSEYE 75.1 21.8 1.41 1420 100.0 60190 13700 0.391 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Silhouette 68.2 26.0 1.68 1420 100.0 60190 13518 0.394 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant UNIQUE 83.7 23.6 1.53 1419 100.0 60190 13673 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem MP200 77.0 24.8 1.61 1415 100.0 60190 13397 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 506 73.5 22.7 1.47 1397 100.0 60190 13135 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem MS200 83.3 23.8 1.54 1395 100.0 60190 12863 0.399 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.2 76.6 22.2 1.44 1394 100.0 60190 12475 0.394 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil J706 94.3 24.7 1.60 1392 100.0 60190 13297 0.410 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N340 81.6 23.7 1.53 1391 100.0 60190 12608 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie P2636 Ws 81.3 23.9 1.55 1387 100.0 60190 12684 0.400 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-7 105.0 44.5 2.88 1385 75.2 41563 19233 0.480
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation 105.0 44.6 2.89 1383 69.4 43462 17853 0.457
Accurate 2200 105.0 46.7 3.03 1377 66.1 42673 18089 0.463
Lovex S020 75.0 22.9 1.48 1374 100.0 60190 12181 0.399 ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex yellow 75.0 22.9 1.48 1374 100.0 60190 12181 0.399 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207 105.0 43.0 2.79 1373 78.1 38600 19654 0.491
Hodgdon H4198 105.0 43.2 2.80 1372 69.9 42769 17648 0.462
NitroKemia REX 3/Green/36 100.4 24.1 1.56 1370 100.0 60190 12134 0.401 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 105.0 47.2 3.06 1369 68.8 39151 19510 0.483
Rottweil P803 75.0 23.9 1.55 1368 100.0 60190 12413 0.407 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 70N 71.7 22.4 1.45 1366 100.0 60190 12297 0.400 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Universal 79.5 22.4 1.45 1366 100.0 60190 12297 0.400 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 515 81.9 23.4 1.52 1364 100.0 60190 11997 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
NitroKemia REX 2/Yellow/32 99.8 23.1 1.49 1363 100.0 60190 11944 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 105.0 49.0 3.17 1357 63.8 41617 17655 0.470
NitroKemia REX 1/Red/28 100.2 23.4 1.52 1356 100.0 60190 11813 0.394 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N330 78.0 22.3 1.44 1353 100.0 60190 11800 0.402 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1250 85.2 22.3 1.45 1351 100.0 60190 11642 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 12 77.0 22.6 1.46 1350 100.0 60190 11971 0.407 ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 1 90.2 23.2 1.50 1349 100.0 60190 11589 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 231 69.1 22.9 1.48 1347 100.0 60190 11678 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Zip 62.0 22.9 1.48 1347 100.0 60190 11678 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 509 80.2 22.9 1.48 1347 100.0 60190 11702 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex green 55.7 20.4 1.32 1344 100.0 60190 11352 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D032 55.7 20.4 1.32 1344 100.0 60190 11352 0.396 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P804 68.5 23.5 1.52 1343 100.0 60190 11894 0.408 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon HP38 61.7 22.6 1.47 1341 100.0 60190 11543 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 2 83.8 22.3 1.45 1338 100.0 60190 11610 0.407 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S011 71.9 21.3 1.38 1335 100.0 60190 11288 0.395 ! Near Maximum !
Fiocchi F-Rex red 71.9 21.3 1.38 1335 100.0 60190 11288 0.395 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Nitro 100 85.9 19.6 1.27 1334 100.0 60190 11545 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D013 85.9 19.6 1.27 1334 100.0 60190 11545 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 3 86.3 21.8 1.41 1334 100.0 60190 11387 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant GREEN DOT 86.3 21.1 1.37 1330 100.0 60190 11458 0.400 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120 105.0 42.0 2.72 1329 78.9 36092 18369 0.507
ADI AS 50N 81.8 20.9 1.35 1327 100.0 60190 11335 0.400 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 105.0 47.5 3.08 1321 62.6 37747 17493 0.489
Maxam CSB 4 84.7 21.0 1.36 1319 100.0 60190 11116 0.397 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S015 86.0 20.9 1.35 1317 100.0 60190 11072 0.399 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Solo 1000 86.0 20.9 1.35 1317 100.0 60190 11072 0.399 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 105.0 41.2 2.67 1317 71.8 36689 17289 0.497
Vihtavuori N320 79.7 20.5 1.33 1313 100.0 60190 10915 0.402 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 105.0 49.2 3.19 1313 61.4 36879 17539 0.498
SNPE Vectan SP 10 105.0 49.1 3.18 1312 61.4 36791 17536 0.498
Alliant RED DOT 90.3 19.7 1.28 1310 100.0 60190 11100 0.399 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 105.0 47.5 3.08 1309 61.3 37759 16814 0.492
Rottweil P801 71.5 22.0 1.42 1308 100.0 60190 11052 0.406 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon TiteGroup 59.4 21.2 1.37 1305 100.0 60190 10792 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 105.0 50.2 3.25 1303 60.1 36911 17112 0.496
Kazan Sunar 308W 105.0 45.0 2.92 1301 69.5 36063 17135 0.509
PB Clermont PCL 514 80.9 19.6 1.27 1295 100.0 60190 10561 0.398 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AS 30 88.9 20.1 1.30 1295 100.0 60190 10676 0.400 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 105.0 45.0 2.92 1289 69.2 33790 18461 0.542
Maxam CSB 5 83.0 19.8 1.28 1285 100.0 60190 10444 0.400 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P805 94.9 20.6 1.33 1277 100.0 60190 10349 0.403 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R1 92.9 20.6 1.33 1277 100.0 60190 10353 0.403 ! Near Maximum !
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39 105.0 47.0 3.04 1266 66.9 31929 17984 0.539
Vihtavuori N310 72.0 18.3 1.19 1260 100.0 60190 9883 0.403 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 40 105.0 46.9 3.04 1243 57.7 32845 15794 0.527
Alliant Reloder-10x 105.0 43.4 2.81 1243 65.2 30896 16891 0.551
Lovex D073.4 105.0 49.3 3.19 1229 55.7 31890 15684 0.536
Ramshot X-Terminator 105.0 49.1 3.18 1220 53.7 32472 14890 0.532
Vihtavuori N130 105.0 43.0 2.79 1215 65.5 30306 15555 0.554
Alliant Reloder-12 105.0 46.9 3.04 1213 58.8 31187 15125 0.541
Accurate 2230 105.0 49.8 3.23 1213 53.0 31696 15007 0.536
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 105.0 22.9 1.49 1209 100.0 54807 9052 0.430 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 105.0 44.6 2.89 1209 57.4 30608 15152 0.545
Hodgdon Benchmark 105.0 45.3 2.93 1208 57.4 31351 14801 0.544
Vihtavuori N530 105.0 46.2 3.00 1195 53.1 30317 14705 0.548
Somchem S321 105.0 49.5 3.21 1193 52.5 30079 14888 0.552
Winchester 748 105.0 49.5 3.21 1193 50.0 30759 14397 0.544
Accurate 2460 105.0 49.5 3.21 1184 53.3 28858 15103 0.567
Lovex D073.5 105.0 49.3 3.20 1178 53.0 28525 14987 0.571
PB Clermont PCL 507 105.0 48.0 3.11 1178 51.5 29413 14325 0.558
ADI AR 2206 105.0 45.5 2.95 1177 54.4 30182 13813 0.553
Ramshot TAC 105.0 49.6 3.21 1170 47.9 30046 13658 0.552
IMR 8208 XBR 105.0 46.0 2.98 1168 52.3 28786 14095 0.564
Accurate 2015 105.0 44.0 2.85 1167 60.1 27008 15205 0.590
Lovex S060 105.0 44.7 2.90 1161 52.9 29122 13571 0.563
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 105.0 45.6 2.96 1156 51.7 28795 13439 0.563
Hodgdon CFE223 105.0 51.2 3.32 1153 44.9 29340 13166 0.557
Ramshot Wild Boar 105.0 49.1 3.18 1153 47.6 28591 13517 0.565
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 105.0 44.7 2.90 1138 54.0 26538 13815 0.588
Somchem S341 105.0 49.5 3.21 1130 46.4 27851 12756 0.572
Alliant AR-Comp 105.0 44.5 2.88 1129 53.5 26054 13608 0.594
Hodgdon BL-C2 105.0 50.2 3.25 1122 45.8 26808 13173 0.584
Hodgdon H4895 105.0 46.0 2.98 1121 48.0 25917 13441 0.597
ADI AR 2206H 105.0 46.0 2.98 1120 47.7 25926 13331 0.597
Vihtavuori N133 105.0 42.1 2.73 1119 57.8 25676 13194 0.599
Somchem S335 105.0 45.0 2.92 1118 56.0 25388 13574 0.609
SNPE Vectan SP 9 105.0 47.5 3.08 1115 46.7 26352 12792 0.590
Rottweil R901 105.0 43.7 2.83 1104 53.4 24573 14120 0.643
SNPE Vectan SP 7 105.0 49.3 3.20 1103 44.1 26078 12594 0.592
Norma 202 105.0 45.2 2.93 1103 50.8 24742 13199 0.612
PB Clermont PCL 516 105.0 49.0 3.17 1103 43.4 26353 12213 0.589
Accurate 2520 105.0 48.5 3.14 1084 46.2 24199 12878 0.617
Vihtavuori N140 105.0 45.1 2.92 1078 49.9 23952 12270 0.620
Norma 201 105.0 45.0 2.92 1076 48.3 23252 12893 0.638
Vihtavuori N540 105.0 46.5 3.01 1071 48.5 23566 12281 0.627
ADI AR 2208 105.0 44.6 2.89 1067 44.8 23940 11528 0.619
Hodgdon VARGET 105.0 44.5 2.88 1062 44.6 23695 11439 0.622
IMR 4895 105.0 46.0 2.98 1061 42.8 23076 12052 0.633
IMR 4320 105.0 45.2 2.93 1059 42.5 24021 11060 0.617
Ramshot Big Game 105.0 49.0 3.17 1056 40.0 24149 11141 0.616
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 105.0 46.4 3.01 1055 39.6 24741 10485 0.606
IMR 3031 105.0 43.0 2.79 1052 46.1 22337 11875 0.644
Alliant Reloder-15 105.0 46.0 2.98 1050 42.2 22704 11738 0.639
Raufoss RA11 105.0 46.0 2.98 1050 42.2 22704 11738 0.639
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 105.0 46.0 2.98 1050 42.2 22704 11738 0.639
Lovex D073.6 105.0 47.4 3.07 1047 44.3 22346 12070 0.644
Rottweil R902 105.0 44.3 2.87 1045 46.9 21821 12218 0.659
Norma 203B 105.0 46.0 2.98 1039 41.9 22166 11521 0.647
ReloadSwiss RS 50 105.0 47.8 3.10 1038 40.0 23052 11020 0.631
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 105.0 47.5 3.08 1037 40.7 22780 11056 0.636
IMR 4064 105.0 43.4 2.81 1035 43.7 22227 11130 0.644
Lovex S062 105.0 44.7 2.90 1026 44.6 21173 11628 0.662
ReloadSwiss RS 52 105.0 47.5 3.08 1023 39.3 22083 10783 0.645
SNPE Vectan SP 11 105.0 47.5 3.08 1011 38.1 21724 10346 0.651
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 105.0 45.7 2.96 1008 38.9 22004 9942 0.644
Hodgdon H380 105.0 47.0 3.04 1006 38.7 21109 10720 0.659
Accurate 2700 105.0 48.0 3.11 1006 39.0 22095 10182 0.645
IMR 4007 SSC 105.0 46.6 3.02 1005 38.2 21485 10462 0.654
Accurate 2495 105.0 45.0 2.92 981 43.8 18282 11928 0.710
Winchester 760 105.0 48.6 3.15 969 32.2 20453 9267 0.667
Hodgdon H414 105.0 48.6 3.15 969 32.2 20453 9267 0.667
Somchem S355 105.0 45.0 2.92 969 39.2 18941 10218 0.694
Bofors RP7 105.0 45.1 2.92 961 36.5 19369 9696 0.685
Rottweil R907 105.0 45.1 2.92 961 36.5 19369 9696 0.685
Elcho 17 105.0 48.2 3.13 961 32.7 20052 9140 0.672
Alliant Reloder-17 105.0 48.2 3.13 961 32.7 20052 9140 0.672
Norma 203 old 105.0 46.5 3.01 958 37.1 18708 10003 0.695
Bofors RP3 105.0 46.5 3.01 958 37.1 18708 10003 0.695
Vihtavuori N135 105.0 41.7 2.70 955 43.3 18066 9953 0.711
ADI AS 25 BP 105.0 15.5 1.00 954 100.0 26963 6325 0.609
IMR TrailBoss 105.0 15.5 1.00 954 100.0 26963 6325 0.609
ReloadSwiss RS 60 105.0 48.2 3.13 953 31.9 19775 8912 0.676
PB Clermont PCL 511 105.0 49.0 3.17 940 31.2 19213 8702 0.686
IMR 4350 105.0 45.7 2.96 935 33.4 18701 8611 0.695
Lovex S065 105.0 45.0 2.92 932 36.2 17770 9337 0.713
Vihtavuori N550 105.0 47.0 3.04 930 32.8 18093 8941 0.705
Rottweil R903 105.0 45.5 2.95 928 35.6 17487 9347 0.716
Norma 204 105.0 47.5 3.08 922 29.8 18776 8179 0.691
Hodgdon H4350 105.0 45.0 2.92 913 32.4 17684 8230 0.713
Accurate 4064 105.0 45.0 2.92 912 37.9 15939 9977 0.751
Vihtavuori N150 105.0 43.4 2.81 912 37.7 16973 8752 0.728
Lovex S070 105.0 45.5 2.95 900 32.4 16611 8554 0.732
Ramshot Hunter 105.0 47.5 3.08 899 29.7 17342 8036 0.718
Norma URP 105.0 45.5 2.95 896 31.1 16852 8165 0.727
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 45.5 2.95 896 31.1 16837 8157 0.727
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 105.0 46.7 3.03 887 29.7 16901 7830 0.724
Rottweil R904 105.0 45.3 2.94 884 29.2 16929 7570 0.723
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 46.0 2.98 884 28.5 16957 7584 0.723
Raufoss RA4 105.0 46.0 2.98 884 28.5 16957 7584 0.723
ADI AR 2209 105.0 45.7 2.96 871 27.4 16577 7298 0.729
Somchem S361 105.0 49.0 3.17 870 28.1 16721 7299 0.727
ReloadSwiss RS 62 105.0 48.2 3.12 867 27.6 16093 7541 0.739
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 44.5 2.88 865 30.9 15810 7455 0.747
ReloadSwiss RS 70 105.0 49.0 3.17 860 25.3 16518 7051 0.729
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 46.0 2.98 859 27.2 15810 7244 0.746
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 46.0 2.98 850 26.9 15483 7075 0.752
Somchem S365 105.0 45.7 2.96 838 27.9 14803 7089 0.767
Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 48.5 3.14 837 25.7 15849 6617 0.741
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 46.5 3.01 835 25.2 15440 6621 0.750
Accurate 4350 105.0 46.0 2.98 828 26.5 14406 7083 0.772
IMR 4831 105.0 44.0 2.85 817 27.8 13770 6883 0.792
ADI AR 2213 105.0 46.5 3.01 817 23.2 14820 6313 0.763
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 47.2 3.06 812 22.3 14753 6196 0.764
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 44.1 2.86 805 26.2 13858 6293 0.789
Somchem S385 105.0 46.5 3.01 802 25.0 13671 6442 0.791
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 44.7 2.90 795 24.0 13705 6054 0.790
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 46.9 3.04 791 22.5 13799 5931 0.788
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 47.0 3.04 791 21.4 13573 6055 0.792
Norma MRP 105.0 48.0 3.11 789 21.8 13553 6072 0.792
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 46.5 3.01 783 22.3 13199 6013 0.802
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 46.5 3.01 783 22.3 13199 6013 0.802
Raufoss RA15 105.0 46.5 3.01 783 22.3 13199 6013 0.802
Rottweil R905 105.0 45.6 2.96 772 21.7 12931 5745 0.808
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 45.5 2.95 765 23.7 12657 5670 0.818
Alliant Reloder-26 105.0 49.4 3.20 765 20.2 12938 5663 0.833
Winchester WXR 105.0 45.5 2.95 759 21.5 12262 5674 0.828
Bofors RP15 105.0 45.5 2.95 759 21.5 12262 5674 0.828
IMR 7828 105.0 44.7 2.90 758 20.8 12499 5466 0.819
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 48.9 3.17 757 19.0 12724 5471 0.839
Alliant Reloder-23 105.0 45.0 2.92 747 22.9 11794 5551 0.843
ADI AP 2214 105.0 47.7 3.09 745 19.6 12736 5077 0.811
Ramshot Magnum 105.0 50.1 3.25 742 19.3 12859 5034 0.834
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 45.7 2.96 727 20.4 11349 5135 0.855
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 49.1 3.18 719 17.6 11952 4746 0.859
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 49.1 3.18 717 17.5 11903 4722 0.860
Accurate 3100 105.0 46.0 2.98 708 20.5 10684 5008 0.914
ADI AR 2217 105.0 45.5 2.95 700 18.4 10951 4527 0.864
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 45.5 2.95 700 18.4 10951 4527 0.864
Bofors RP30 105.0 46.0 2.98 673 16.7 9797 4354 0.945
Norma MRP 2 105.0 46.0 2.98 673 16.7 9797 4354 0.945
Lovex D100 105.0 49.5 3.21 669 15.6 10446 4033 0.914
Lovex S071 105.0 43.5 2.82 662 19.1 9167 4393 0.929
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 49.0 3.17 660 14.4 10124 3909 0.922
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 48.5 3.14 657 13.8 9704 4003 0.935
ADI AR 2225 105.0 46.2 3.00 654 16.3 9363 4039 0.969
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 46.2 3.00 654 16.3 9363 4039 0.969
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 45.5 2.95 647 16.1 9098 4001 0.977
Alliant Reloder-33 105.0 50.5 3.27 639 13.1 9403 3727 0.946
ADI AR 2218 105.0 49.0 3.17 635 12.7 9431 3591 0.944
ReloadSwiss RS 80 105.0 49.9 3.23 613 12.3 8703 3400 0.978
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 46.7 3.03 607 12.2 8361 3334 0.995
Hodgdon H870 105.0 47.5 3.08 599 12.7 8044 3324 1.016
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 49.0 3.17 596 12.3 8184 3200 1.009
Norma 217 105.0 45.3 2.93 595 13.4 7719 3327 1.040
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 45.0 2.92 581 10.7 7783 2878 1.024
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 47.0 3.04 570 12.3 7337 2965 1.061
Accurate 8700 105.0 48.0 3.11 565 11.7 7452 2818 1.050
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 47.0 3.04 557 11.7 7063 2814 1.076
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 45.0 2.92 557 10.5 7109 2694 1.066
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0 48.6 3.15 545 9.7 6706 2748 1.078
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 49.7 3.22 544 9.7 6842 2669 1.073
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 49.5 3.21 540 10.2 6878 2573 1.080
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 45.0 2.92 433 5.5 4708 1448 1.356

Thank you
I'll print that out and tack it to the peg board above my reloading bench

Based on your intended use, I would recommend another bullet than the 300 grain XTP.

Something along the lines of a 400 grain hard cast.

My experience is pretty limited when it comes to loading hard cast bullets. Wouldn't I have to use gas checks with cast bullets? Would leading be a concern with cast bullets in a 460? I cast 230 gr. round nose ( 97% lead, 2% antimony, 1% tin) for my 45 acp, they work well for bowling pins and steel matches I shoot without leading up the bbl.
I'd love to cast heavy bullets for this 460.

The answer to what you need to do to prevent leading with cast bullets is not a simple answer, but rather an it depends answer.

If your revolver is cast friendly which is to say the cylinder throats are 0.0015"-0.002" over bore dia, and your bullets are sized 0.001" over bore diameter you can drive plain based cast bullets fairly fast without leading, also providing you are using a good lube. But it's not a simple issue of velocity, it's also related to pressure, how hard the lead is and the barrel twist rate.

I've run plain based cast bullets ~18 bhn 1200-1500 fps in revolvers loaded at 30-40,000 psi and had no appreciable leading and outstanding accuracy.

Fire hire pressures I would say a gas check is a necessity. And a gas check never hurts anything other than the added cost and effort to install them.

On the flip side if you have a hard cast bullet that is at or under bore size and is lubed with one of those hard crayon type lubes many commercial casters use, you can experience the most hellacious leading ever. So hard cast is no magic solution for magnum revolvers, and can be detrimental.

Jamie, The bullets that I recommended come already checked, with a lube that works good at higher velocities. I'm "pushing" mine pretty hard, with no evidence of leading. If the firearm is to be used for stopping a bear, most folks suggest a heavy, hard cast, wide metplat (bullet tip almost full caliber). You can do We'll with a heavy load in a 45 LC, as well as the 454. If you have the 460, enjoy it. As a handloader, you can down load it to squib loads, or "Rock your world" loads! But, as previously stated, use 460 brass for your light loads! Enjoy! memtb

I witnessed 300 XTP Mags fail miserably on up-close shots on a red stag out of a .45 Colt. I too would suggest a different bullet for this purpose.

Bring it over I want to shoot it