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Short, fat women run?
Not very far, I'll bet.🤔
What fresh Hell is this?
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It will never go away because it is more popular than the .264 Win Mag or .257 Roberts, and they didn't go away.
I think I've seen as many hunters with a .270 WSM.
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Both are popular around here, but I think the 270WSM is moreso.
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Based on the responses, now it makes me wonder what the deal is with Scheels. Every Scheels employee I've seen would have a hard time mounting a scope without reading the instructions. And then they would still proceed to fuqk it up royally. In otherwords, your expectations are too high. This is why I mount my own scope.
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Brass availability is really what drives the "will it or won't it" survive thing, long-term. It's why I'm bumming on 7 WSM; Winchester hasn't made more, and nobody else picked it up. However, both 300 WSM and .270 WSM have aftermarket brass support. Plus, 300 WSM is very well-liked by the loonyiest of loons, the competitive LR guys. Then there's the question of whether it survives as a cool thing on this FORUM... grin... it seems a group of curmudgeons like to opine that it turned out to be not as good as say 300 WM, plus short actions suck, so it was just a stupid idea from the git-go. I'm JUST KIDDING here curmudgeons! Stop waving those canes around menacingly! Actually I'm kinda not kidding. There is a tangible sense that the elders disapprove. So if you run a WSM, you not only get the benefits of a short action, which are REAL DAMMIT!, and no belt, and more efficiency, you are also stickin' it to the MAN! Long live the WSM's!
The CENTER will hold.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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If you want to talk short-fat and fading...think 6.5mm Remington Magnum. More case capacity than .284win and feeds better than WSMs, SAUMs, but mostly nobody cares for it, which is a real shame.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Brass availability is really what drives the "will it or won't it" survive thing, long-term. It's why I'm bumming on 7 WSM; Winchester hasn't made more, and nobody else picked it up.
I think what really drives survival are not the loonies like us on here, but the run of the mill factory load/factory rifle shooters who buy factory ammo and factory rifles up the whazoo. Really I don't think "we" drive too much of anything to the same extent that factory load shooters do as we are in the minority. If we did,brass would more available and not apportioned to factory ammo production. That said I suspect the 300 WSM has earned a slot...after 4-5 of them I never fell in love but it certainly works
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob..... as usual I agree with you. I forget how non-loony the general shooting public is. Of the several other guys at elk camp this year none had even FIRED their elk rifles since last year! That's just incomprehensible to me, but, it is my main hobby these days I guess, and I am capable of great feats of OCD'ness with this stuff and shoot a lot Gayly enough I think the 270 WSM might actually top the 300 WSM, though I'm just guessing there. It does what people like about their .270's ("it shoots so flat I can blah blah blah!") only even more so. Put another way, it's not a magnum it's being compared against.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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300wsm needs reloading. Factory ammo cripples it to not being much better than 30-06. However, I have had fantastic results with mine. 3250fps 1/2" groups with 165 accubonds, 2900fps 3/4" groups with 200 grain partitons...puts critters down nicely. Kimber MT is a dream to carry...love my 300wsm.
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300wsm needs reloading. Factory ammo cripples it to not being much better than 30-06. That's crazy talk. 300 WSM ammo is loaded to and beyond the gills.
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I finally pick up my Kimber MA 300 WSM tomorrow that I had on order since July. Kimber rep said they were selling a bunch of them, thus the long wait to get mine. I didn't know Kimber made a 300 WSM Massachusetts model... wool plaid Styrofoam stock pattern?
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Never said that SAs suck, only that a 1/2" of action length one way or another is no big deal. Action length is only one element in how a rifle handles and balances.
The effiency claim is a crock, as has been proven by re-chambering the same barrel to successively longer .30 mags and comparing the velocities.
Cartridge (and rifle) groupies are like homosexuals that can't be content with just enjoying getting poked in the poop chute themselves; they want everyone else to like it too.😛
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