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I just put an old 340 Savage on layaway, need to keep an eye out for some bullets .I do like the Sierra brand and they have quite the selection . I would rather have a pass through than a surface crater . Your experiences would be listened to with keen interest . Verns


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Of the Sierras my first choice would be a 40 grain Blitzking. Maybe one of the SP Blitz Varminters #1340 if you want a lead tip.

My first choice overall would be a Nosler 40 grain Ballistic Tip.

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Thanks 10, that looks like it is a boat tail which I do like. I will see if they have some .I do have that in 55 gr.


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I don't know about the .222 but the 40 gr. V-Max isn't very fur friendly in .204, it puts them down but makes a mess of fur. I have had a couple splashes with the 39 gr. Sierra in the .204. I think I would try a soft point if I was trying to save furs.

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FWIW Ive found fur friendly in the deuce to be a tad heavier and stoutly constructed. I like Hornady basic 50 grain soft points...

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Or if your twist will shoot them, the basic Hornady 55 grain soft point.

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All critters shot with the deuce had smallish exit holes.


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Is that number one a Deuce? If so how does she shoot?


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40 gr Nosler ballistic tip - usually just a caliber sized hole in and no exit. I have shot a lot of coyotes using them and they have performed beautifully.

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Originally Posted by CrowRifle
Is that number one a Deuce? If so how does she shoot?



It is, and it shoots really well. Has the quirk of not shooting a warm barrel well...but that is of no issue when hunting with a single shot.
Its also twisted 1 in 9 and shoots everything Ive tried in it up to 63 grainers.


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Skookum. Yeah mine strings vertically when it gets warm. Very nice.


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Originally Posted by CrowRifle
Skookum. Yeah mine strings vertically when it gets warm. Very nice.



Yep. Happy with how it shoots and didn't touch a thing on it...right out of the box..


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Gonna take it to Texas and kill some pigs with it this spring... grin


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A favorite load years ago was 19.5 gr. of 4198 and a 50 gr. Sierra flat base.. One guy used this on groundhogs, turkey and deer..


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19.5 gr. works good with 50 grain bullets in every rifle Ive tried!


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Originally Posted by ingwe
19.5 gr. works good with 50 grain bullets in every rifle Ive tried!



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A pretty universal load - always a good place to start.......

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I've had good luck with the Sierra 1365 55 grain Game King. Stout bullet, small exit wounds but enough expansion to kill well.

Another good one has been a 50-52 grain HP hand swaged with 22RF cases for jackets. I've shot a lot of them through 222's with great success on coyotes. Rarely an exit.


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Originally Posted by PaleRider
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19.5 gr. works good with 50 grain bullets in every rifle Ive tried!



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A pretty universal load - always a good place to start.......


That's also a good load with 25 HP - either Hornady or Powerlokt- in the 17 Rem.

Sierra bullets have a core alloy that seems to work very well to limit expansion when the speeds are right - in the SP versions anyway. I've shot a quite few 45 Varminters in my Bee and get perfect expansion for fox when saving fur. (But they will sometimes run a bit since the bullets expand modestly. I would imagine a 50 or 55 softpoint would work similarly in the 222.)


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Great I have 4198 and some #1365 also some 52 hpbt match.


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Originally Posted by verns
Great I have 4198 and some #1365 also some 52 hpbt match.



That could be a real good combo for you.


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Originally Posted by verns
Great I have 4198 and some #1365 also some 52 hpbt match.



Had a couple of 222s that shot the Sierra 52gr into little booger groups with that 19.5gr of 4198 load.
Worked great on coyotes & targets.............

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52gr hpbt and 22.5gr of 4895 has been my load of choice through several .222's. I have yet to own one that wouldn't shoot that great

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Originally Posted by Klikitarik
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19.5 gr. works good with 50 grain bullets in every rifle Ive tried!



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A pretty universal load - always a good place to start.......


That's also a good load with 25 HP - either Hornady or Powerlokt- in the 17 Rem.

Sierra bullets have a core alloy that seems to work very well to limit expansion when the speeds are right - in the SP versions anyway. I've shot a quite few 45 Varminters in my Bee and get perfect expansion for fox when saving fur. (But they will sometimes run a bit since the bullets expand modestly. I would imagine a 50 or 55 softpoint would work similarly in the 222.)


You use 4198 in your .17 Rem?




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I've used the 40 gr. Hornady vmax / .222 rem & IMR 4198 on 6 coyotes so far this fall, from 40-300ish yards. Wrecked one by shooting it through top of the shoulder blades. The rest just kinda rattled inside when I picked them up, no exit hole.

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Thank you castnblast that is some specific info and helpful. I just got the rifle Friday and shot a few odds and ends shells I had loaded for a different rifle. The old rifle is going to be a good shooter. I am left handed so it is a bit awkward after using my Tikka lefty. Verns


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40gr Nosler BT has been less explosive than the 40gr H V-Max for me in a 223 Rem. on Coyotes.

Less damage going in and still usually does not exit (one hole in fur).

Prefer the V-Max to the Nosler on P.Dogs & Squirrels for more red mist effect....................

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If you have a somewhat slow twist, I'd look at the 45 TSX.



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Originally Posted by castnblast
I've used the 40 gr. Hornady vmax / .222 rem & IMR 4198 on 6 coyotes so far this fall, from 40-300ish yards. Wrecked one by shooting it through top of the shoulder blades. The rest just kinda rattled inside when I picked them up, no exit hole.


shot four more this week with the 40 gr. Nosler Ballistic tip, propelled by W748 to about 3080fps. Same results. Dead coyotes, no exit.

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Originally Posted by castnblast
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I've used the 40 gr. Hornady vmax / .222 rem & IMR 4198 on 6 coyotes so far this fall, from 40-300ish yards. Wrecked one by shooting it through top of the shoulder blades. The rest just kinda rattled inside when I picked them up, no exit hole.


shot four more this week with the 40 gr. Nosler Ballistic tip, propelled by W748 to about 3080fps. Same results. Dead coyotes, no exit.


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45 Barnes, should punch through without much damage.

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The 40g Sierra HP is a great bullet.

For bobcats and foxes we load down with Blue dot, 12g is around 3000 fps, accurate a plenty.

around 11.6g of Blue dot gets you into 2600 fps.

I found the accuracy node with the 40g Sierra and 40g Nosler at 3200 fps for 200 yards with 1 1/2" groups.

Many bullets will work on the coyote. 55g Winchester sp around 3000 fps does not penetrate a coyote on broadside shots, they just look like someone sucked the wind out of them.

For those of you that have not got into loading blue dot and 40g bullets-55g bullets, you are in for a real treat, not as noisy and clean every 600 rounds.

It is a good idea to weigh every charge with blue dot due to how the large flakes bridge in a powder measure.


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