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Anyone have one built lately? Looking for another 7mm, don't think that I gain anything over my 7mm08, but norma brass looks readily available. Strictly for hunting, I understand Melvin built his lightweight fame on this cartridge. Advice and opinions appreciated

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Use a 3.1" action if you build.


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I have some in Savage 99's (short actions for those that don't know) and use the Speer 145 grain SPBT bullet. They are wonderful to hunt with and perform very well.

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You can absolutely use a Winchester 70 short action and load the 140's just fine. Redneck, here on the campfire, built one for my son that shot/fed perfectly. Rebarreled a 243. (Pac Nor barrel) Plenty of magazine length. Good for mouse to moose! 2900 with a 160 Accubond easily obtainable. 120BT laser death ray on whitetail! It's a great caliber. Build it.


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Originally Posted by nick54
Anyone have one built lately? Looking for another 7mm, don't think that I gain anything over my 7mm08, but norma brass looks readily available. Strictly for hunting, I understand Melvin built his lightweight fame on this cartridge. Advice and opinions appreciated


If you're looking for more speed than the 7mm-08 offers, I think that the 270 WSM, 7mm WSM, and 7mm SAUM are all better choices than the 284. The only 284s that I'm keeping are collectible rifles from Savage and Winchester.

I think that the 284's 55mm case length is a sub-optimal choice in a Remington short action because of the COAL limits imposed by the 2.800" magazines. Longer short actions would be a better choice, but I can't see doing a 284 in a long action when the 280 and 280 AI are available.

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Well I have 1 in a 98 and there's plenty of room for COAL.

MY ONLY hold up is some DUMB XXX gunsmith who screwed up the scope base hole alignment. I have some 'windage adjustable' rings****have to use because I don't TRUST any smith to fill & re-drill & tap.***

AFTER deer season this is my FIRST project. I've been looking forward to having a 284 W for a long time.

280s are fine but they're NOT 284s.

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Jim Borden now offers a mid size Ridgeline 3.2" action , ideal for the .284win.


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The Winchester SA might work perfect for one...


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Originally Posted by Rug3
You can absolutely use a Winchester 70 short action and load the 140's just fine. Redneck, here on the campfire, built one for my son that shot/fed perfectly. Rebarreled a 243. (Pac Nor barrel) Plenty of magazine length. Good for mouse to moose! 2900 with a 160 Accubond easily obtainable. 120BT laser death ray on whitetail! It's a great caliber. Build it.


That sounds like a wicked rifle.


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Originally Posted by jwall
Well I have 1 in a 98 and there's plenty of room for COAL.

MY ONLY hold up is some DUMB XXX gunsmith who screwed up the scope base hole alignment. I have some 'windage adjustable' rings****have to use because I don't TRUST any smith to fill & re-drill & tap.***

AFTER deer season this is my FIRST project. I've been looking forward to having a 284 W for a long time.

280s are fine but they're NOT 284s.

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The OP asked for opinions and I gave mine. I have owned dozens of 284s, still several Savage 99s and Winchester 88s, but they are collectibles, not shooters. If the OP is looking for more performance out of a short action 7mm why go 284 when the 7mm SAUM and 7mm WSM fit in the same action and offer more performance?

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For no particular reason, I hold the 284 in the same regard as the 300H&H. Cool factor, and works.


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Originally Posted by nick54
Anyone have one built lately? Looking for another 7mm, don't think that I gain anything over my 7mm08, but norma brass looks readily available. Strictly for hunting, I understand Melvin built his lightweight fame on this cartridge. Advice and opinions appreciated



And a few years back he told me for today he would go 7mm-08. But, makes little difference if that is what you want.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy

... If the OP is looking for more performance out of a short action 7mm why go 284 when the 7mm SAUM and 7mm WSM
fit in the same action and offer more performance?


I didn't read the OP as wanting .284win for more 7mm performance, sounds more like he just wants to have a .284win.



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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by 260Remguy

... If the OP is looking for more performance out of a short action 7mm why go 284 when the 7mm SAUM and 7mm WSM
fit in the same action and offer more performance?


I didn't read the OP as wanting .284win for more 7mm performance, sounds more like he just wants to have a .284win.



If not for the slight performance advantage, I can't see why anyone would go to the trouble of doing a 284 in favor of a 7mm-08. But, I'm the same guy who favors the 256 Newton over the 6.5-06, so what do I know?

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I built one on a Savage short action, allows me to seat out to 2.95 and still work in the detachable magazine. I used a Adams and Bennett barrel that was a 7mm08. It shoots pretty well. Best of Luck


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I had one built on a 700 SA with a Wyatt box and have never regretted it. It's a very accurate "270, a 280" in a short action rifle. In fact I think it's an excellent cartridge design; if renamed the 7 mm OSF (Original Short Fat) it might begin selling again. wink

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The 284 Winchester--<Thread Title>

Originally Posted by nick54
Anyone have one built lately? Looking for another 7mm, don't think that I gain anything over my 7mm08, but norma brass looks readily available.


OP plainly states, "don't think I gain anything over my 7mm08."

For the same reason some WANT 6.5 Creed, 6.5X47, et.al., et.al.,

I wanted a 284 JUST BECAUSE. We don't have to justify WHY to everyone OR anyone.

I have and LOVE my 300 WM--don't need it, just like it and WANT it.

I want a 284 W. It's different- It's KOOL imo because of the case design. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

BTW- IMO the 284W can best the 7-08--maybe not by a whole lot but some. That's NOT why the OP is asking.

BTW - 260 RG - I didn't pull your chain nor direct my comment toward you.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
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... If the OP is looking for more performance out of a short action 7mm why go 284 when the 7mm SAUM and 7mm WSM
fit in the same action and offer more performance?


I didn't read the OP as wanting .284win for more 7mm performance, sounds more like he just wants to have a .284win.



If not for the slight performance advantage, I can't see why anyone would go to the trouble of doing a 284 in favor of a 7mm-08. But, I'm the same guy who favors the 256 Newton over the 6.5-06, so what do I know?


Apart from the 10" twist and excessive taper, I won't hold it against you. It reminds me a lot of the 7x64 Brenneke vs .280 Rem, or more recently .280 AI comparisons; less taper, and quicker twist.

The .256 Newton had its day, but that day has passed.

I have to agree that the 7mm-08 gives 90%, without the grief of the .284 case.


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I've had some grief in my life but none were due to the 284 case. It's always interesting when people are so sure of what's not true.

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The 284 Winchester is a great cartridge, as is the 6.5x284. I've owned both and found the 6.5mm version to be just as capable as the 284.

I will say, the 284 loaded with a 154gr Hornady Innerlock is a great combination for bull elk sized game. Again I feel the 284 deserves a 3.1" Magazine.

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