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it shows the rest of the world how supposedly civilized we are


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No reason that makes any sense with me. They also complain about the cost of the drugs, and the effectiveness.
I find it humorous they call it "lethal injection". Let's just drop them in a pit of vipers from here on out. Televise it, take odds on how long he lasts, how many hits it takes, and how many strikes he can avoid. Feed the remains to pigs. Make bacon.
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Taking the issue of these "botched", lethal injection, executions at face value, it's rather amazing to me that most of the very drugs used are the ones we in anesthesia administer every day in precise dosages and ways to bring patients through their surgery and anesthesia as smoothly as possible.

These drugs are our tools and we know them intimately. Obviously no health care provider is going to volunteer or otherwise be involved with lethal injection executions but picking my choice of drugs and dosages, death would be swift in 5-10 minutes, without pain, any contorted movements, or any degree of consciousness.

I don't understand why these prison officials can't procure this information and get it right. It takes knowledge and skill to use these drugs eloquently in delivering a good anesthetic; conversely, to execute quickly, it 1). takes the right drugs, 2). The right doses which = 3) quick painless death. It's the simplest of recipes that anybody who can read can follow.
So, rhetorically, why does this incompetency keep occurring?

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Considering the chance of excetuting am innocent, ( which has happend several times), the death penalty should be painless.


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Originally Posted by Northman
Considering the chance of excetuting am innocent, ( which has happend several times), the death penalty should be painless.


I disagree, they should die the same way their victims died.

I'm sick and tired of coddling these f u c k e r s, they didn't care about their victims pain why the h e l l should we care about theirs?

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Don't worry about painless or not. It's right after they die and they face their maker that their 'entertainment' begins. All will be made right in the end.

I hate the political part of execution anyway. We put down thousands of pets every day painlessly. Really good drugs for the job are available but politics prevents their use.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Don't worry about painless or not. It's right after they die and they face their maker that their 'entertainment' begins. All will be made right in the end.

I hate the political part of execution anyway. We put down thousands of pets every day painlessly. Really good drugs for the job are available but politics prevents their use.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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As I said, all will be made right in the end. It's not for us to see what every man's end is but it WILL be made right in God's eyes.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
As I said, all will be made right in the end. It's not for us to see what every man's end is but it WILL be made right in God's eyes.


Read the whole book.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Being stupid SHOULD hurt.

They are not sitting on death row for writing hot checks...


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Originally Posted by Northman
Considering the chance of excetuting am innocent, ( which has happend several times), the death penalty should be painless.


This is true but that is an indictment of the stupid [bleep] judges that are allowed to exist in this country.

Not the death penalty. Lots and lots of prisoners need to be executed.



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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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from the article:

"Thirteen minutes into his execution by injection, an Alabama inmate heaved and coughed and appeared to move during tests meant to determine consciousness."


13 minutes? WTF?[b][/b]

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Jesus Mary and Joseph on a piggy powered pogo stick!

As reasonable human beings we don't kill ANY animal by torturing it to death and it stains us all every time we participate in such activity,

The argument that we may be executing an innocent person so we need to do a decent job of it just astonishes me for it's lack of insight. You fix a bad job by doing a better job of carrying out the final portion of that bad job? Really?

The medical community refusing to participate in any way steps so far into the unethical practice it gives one pause about wasted education! If the medical community (and I realize it is not monolithic or of unanimous opinion)will not help provide a decent death when that is precisely what is necessary in a specific situation it is shirking a substantial portion of it's responsibility. Doctors routinely participate in humane death of terminal patients, and not infrequently when other ill considered interventions have produced a situation in which they have shortened a patient's life before hand. If humane and efficient execution is necessary to society, and I believe it is, then the medical community need to come up with rational, ethical and most importantly consistent arguments to the contrary or help. As stated above, the means and the skill required for that end are readily available.

The reason for execution is not retribution! If any of you accept retribution as a reason for execution, stand up and make a rational argument against Islamic law which is based on retribution. Execution is for when we have people just too dangerous to ever take a chance on them getting loose. Ever.

In my life I have seen a number of people totally lacking in comprehension of what they are doing to people. Sometimes you can just see that they are so damaged they'll eventually commit a capital crime or be killed in the attempt. Society has a right to protect itself from such people and until we mature enough to shed idiotic ideas about retribution we'll not only continue with executions that demean us all, but we will also continue to see really damaged people commit really horrific crimes.

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The medical community refusing to participate in any way steps so far into the unethical practice it gives one pause about wasted education! If the medical community (and I realize it is not monolithic or of unanimous opinion)will not help provide a decent death when that is precisely what is necessary in a specific situation it is shirking a substantial portion of it's responsibility. Doctors routinely participate in humane death of terminal patients, and not infrequently when other ill considered interventions have produced a situation in which they have shortened a patient's life before hand. If humane and efficient execution is necessary to society, and I believe it is, then the medical community need to come up with rational, ethical and most importantly consistent arguments to the contrary or help. As stated above, the means and the skill required for that end are readily available.
Many of these doctors will fight against the 'inhumane' executions but then they think nothing about tearing the arms and legs off of an unborn child.


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So why not take them out as is done with a beef?

Im pretty sure many who arent members of the medical group could read one of Georges anesthesia books and get the job done. Problem is, lawyers and such would be cut out of the cash cow.


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Why don't they just give them suicide pills they use in Oregon that libs claim are so humane?



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We need to back to the basics, the tried and true.

ROPE!!


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Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy


Why don't they just give them suicide pills they use in Oregon that libs claim are so humane?
There are lots of mostly painless ways to kill someone. The tried and true guillotine was one of them but our polite society can't stand the sight of blood.


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