Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire What a load of crap. Why are only murderers supposed to get pain free death?

I disagree, they should die the same way their victims died.

I'm sick and tired of coddling these f u c k e r s, they didn't care about their victims pain why the h e l l should we care about theirs?

Taking the issue of these "botched", lethal injection, executions at face value, it's rather amazing to me that most of the very drugs used are the ones we in anesthesia administer every day in precise dosages and ways to bring patients through their surgery and anesthesia as smoothly as possible.

These drugs are our tools and we know them intimately. Obviously no health care provider is going to volunteer or otherwise be involved with lethal injection executions but picking my choice of drugs and dosages, death would be swift in 5-10 minutes, without pain, any contorted movements, or any degree of consciousness.

I don't understand why these prison officials can't procure this information and get it right. It takes knowledge and skill to use these drugs eloquently in delivering a good anesthetic; conversely, to execute quickly, it 1). takes the right drugs, 2). The right doses which = 3) quick painless death. It's the simplest of recipes that anybody who can read can follow.
So, rhetorically, why does this incompetency keep occurring?

The reason it is not so easy is because the liberals have attacked the pharmaceutical manufacturers for selling medical drugs to prison officials. The pharmaceutical companies in an effort to avoid the publicity have stopped selling the most effective drugs to the government. Not sure which US Supreme Court justice referenced this issue in his opinion but he pointed out that the anti death penalty people have actually made it far more painful and risky because they can't use the normal drugs.

jaguar...

I'm a bit of a different voice in this discussion, because I oppose the death penalty on practical grounds, rather than principle. (I oppose abortion on principle, btw.)

Without getting too deeply into that, I'd like to say that I've done some serious research into execution methods and their relative "humane" levels. As far as I'm concerned, death by lethal injection is far and away the most effective and least discomfort-causing method currently available. It isn't rocket science, and as George_de_Vries has said, the dosages can be easily calculated to produce the desired effect.

There are 2 problems with this. First problem is that doctors won't get involved for ethical reasons, and rightly so, IMHO. Second problem is that drug manufacturers are refusing to sell drugs to states that carry out executions.

There are simple work-arounds for both problems, but since governments are involved, doing so is like getting a herd of cattle to dance The Nutcracker.

First problem is easily solved by hiring a pharmacologist who is not bound by the Hippocratic Oath to calculate your drugs and dosages. Second problem can be solved by any number of means... buying drugs "blind" through an intermediary/wholesaler instead of direct from the manufacturer, or ordering them through the State Hospital system. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Or, if you just want to go to the second-best method and avoid the whole mess, have each prisoner executed by shooting him in the back of the head with a 9mm pistol, the way the Russians executed millions of prisoners between the Bolshevik revolution and the fall of the Berlin Wall. Cheap, fast, and there is no suffering.

But nooooooo... we have to have a big fight about it.

The way it used to be done.



L.W.

If a vet can put down a horse without a single kick, one would think a human would be a snap.