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$0 1939 Win 1897 pump 12 gauge, my uncle bought it new, I inherited it 4th hand

$50 Wards Hercules break action 410
$75 NEF pardner break action 410
$50 Sav/Stevens break action 410
$61 Crescent Empire 60 double barrel 12 ga
$61 Remington 11 semi auto 12 ga
$61 Remington 11 semi auto 20 ga
$75 Win 1897 pump 12 ga
$75 Davenport falling block 12 ga
$20 Worlds Challenge break action Damascus barrel 12 ga
$50 Stevens 94C break action 12 ga
$50 Iver Johnson break action 16 ga
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$628 / 12= $52 average



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Originally Posted by Clarkm
$0 1939 Win 1897 pump 12 gauge, my uncle bought it new, I inherited it 4th hand

$50 Wards Hercules break action 410
$75 NEF pardner break action 410
$50 Sav/Stevens break action 410
$61 Crescent Empire 60 double barrel 12 ga
$61 Remington 11 semi auto 12 ga
$61 Remington 11 semi auto 20 ga
$75 Win 1897 pump 12 ga
$75 Davenport falling block 12 ga
$20 Worlds Challenge break action Damascus barrel 12 ga
$50 Stevens 94C break action 12 ga
$50 Iver Johnson break action 16 ga
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$628 / 12= $52 average

Want to double your money on the 1897 ?

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That family shotgun was in my youngest brother's possession in 2000. I told the late Randy Ketchum of Lynnwood guns that I was missing my childhood Win 1897 with poly choke. He took me in the back room and showed me a basket case. He said there were one and a half shotguns there, enough to make one that works.

I used the AGI video to put one together. I sold the spare parts to Fiim flam on rec.guns forum in his pawn shop in Crystal Springs FL. He was subsequently stabbed with a samurai sword by a customer and shot the guy to death with a 25acp. He quit the biz. He later died of cancer, like Randy.

Then my father died and I was the executor. I told my brother he could have a pile of our father's valuable guns, if I could get my 97 back. He did it.

So now I have two. If you count what I got for the spare parts, neither cost me anything.

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That is me with the family 97 in 1965. It does not have the poly choke yet.
It was a sawed off shotgun [legally] in the 1930s for the Seattle dock strike and my uncle's father's ship.

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The C.S. Holmes sunk in WWII. It was still making money in the Alaskan fur trade until then. We got all the guns out before the navy got the ship.

Then my father had a full barrel put on at Warshalls Sporting good in Seattle in 1959. He bought a new Rem shotgun in 1963 and I got the 97 at age 12. I weighed 85 pounds and the pigeon loads on doves pushed me back a few feet.
I blew the end off the barrel with a muzzle obstruction, and it was sawed off legal again. My father paid for the poly choke when I was 15.


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Nice old shotgun with a good story , can't beat that . Nice guns .

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I'm a sucker for those Model 11s.

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That Davenport Falling Block sounds interesting.

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I got that 12 ga falling block Davenport 3-26-2006 at the Puyallup gun show off a table for $75.

As I walked up, he was marking down from $135 to $75.
I tried to dicker him down to $60, but he would not go.

Looking at how well designed and well made and how well preserved this shotgun was, I would have expected it to be $600. But just because I never heard of them does not mean they are not common as dirt.


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That's really cool. I never heard of those before.

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Two more cheap shotguns today:

Stevens break action 12 ga $50
Oxford SXS 12 ga with exposed hammers $100


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Nice story.. Love those 97's.. One of my grandfather's shot a model 97.. I think my aunt stole it after he died.. I picked up a early 50's 97 for about 400.. Not as cheap as yours, but I sure like it.. One fall it killed a nice gobbler for me at 62 yards with a load of 5's.. Those old guns seem to really shoot tight..


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When I was 14, I limited on pheasants before any of the adult men got a bird. I was as fast with a shotgun then as 14 year olds are today with video games.

But now old and slow at 65, I realize the 1897 Win is a disadvantage with the slippery little hammer safety and 100 parts involved in cycling.

The Browning A5, designed by the same guy just a few years later, is a much better shotgun.


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Very cool collection


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