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For over 40 years I've had a strong attachment to the 30-06 and the 338WM. It's good I spent so many years in Alaska, because the environ, makes those calibers more practical. While there I threw in the 375 H&H, and finally the 243. I don't see me getting rid of any of these calibers even when I get to the point where I don't/can't hunt anymore. Practically speaking anyone should be able to get by with a 30-06 for hunting throughout the majority of the world (as far as what most people are going to hunt).
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Love my 338 and use it a lot. However, if going with two for NA, I'd say 243 and one 30 cal. 30-06 if you're keeping things inside of 5-600, and a 300 if you want more reach. Ive never shot anything outside of 500 but if Im truly thinning down to a pair, I think Im leaning 300WM.....just in case. is there anything a 338 does thats hands down better than the 300? Yeah........ shoot a 250 gr Nosler Partition ....... and in brown bear country that's a "plus" for me...but Ive only killed two of them so what do I know ? I am not one who thinks the 338 is some universe apart from a 300 magnum, but if we're playing games and picking "two" for everything I will take the 338 in brown bear country. I understand the shot placement thing. The 7 RM handles everything else. I cant disagree with that. Just debating internally how often id be loading up or down going with each of them.
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I'd keep the Swede and either the 300 or 338. The 300 or 338 for brown bear or moose and maybe elk, and the Swede for everything else.
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For over 40 years I've had a strong attachment to the 30-06 and the 338WM. It's good I spent so many years in Alaska, because the environ, makes those calibers more practical. While there I threw in the 375 H&H, and finally the 243. I don't see me getting rid of any of these calibers even when I get to the point where I don't/can't hunt anymore. Practically speaking anyone should be able to get by with a 30-06 for hunting throughout the majority of the world (as far as what most people are going to hunt). ^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^
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.338, loaded up or down as needed. I half thought the same but was thinking 300wm At one point in most of our lives, that's the train of though we all go through. BTDT. I used the 300WM for a long time. In fact, it was my only rifle for about 5 years. I got tired of the recoil and sold it. Dropped back down to the 30-06 and kept a 338wm too. Found the recoil of the 300wm gave me more of a headache than the 338 even. BTDT, not going back down that road... Also, if you already have a 300WSM, you don't need a 300WM. By your post above, it's pretty apparent you want to scratch that itch. Go for it, it's the only way to get it out of your system. Trust me though, you'll be going back to the 30-06 and similar cartridges after you tire of getting beat up by the 300WM...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Duh, that's the obvious answer right there...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Want to thin things out a bit, pick 2 calibers for everything in NA, Deer and larger.
.243 6.5x55 7mm Rem 30-06 300wm 338WM
The .30-06 and .338 Win Mag. Not on your list but; Now that I have a .300 Weatherby in a M70 I am thinking about buying a .270 Winchester. I have long thought that would be a great pairing for what you suggest.
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.338, loaded up or down as needed. I half thought the same but was thinking 300wm At one point in most of our lives, that's the train of though we all go through. BTDT. I used the 300WM for a long time. In fact, it was my only rifle for about 5 years. I got tired of the recoil and sold it. Dropped back down to the 30-06 and kept a 338wm too. Found the recoil of the 300wm gave me more of a headache than the 338 even. BTDT, not going back down that road... Also, if you already have a 300WSM, you don't need a 300WM. By your post above, it's pretty apparent you want to scratch that itch. Go for it, it's the only way to get it out of your system. Trust me though, you'll be going back to the 30-06 and similar cartridges after you tire of getting beat up by the 300WM... I dont have 300WSM, jsut the 300WM and 338WM. I havent ruled out the 06, jsut seems tha the 300 or 338 may be better suited the largest or more dangerous game. Recoil wont be much of a bother as I cant foresee it being used all that much. Im likely going to use the Swede for everything up to and including Elk. Maybe when the time comes I'll decide to bring the bigger rifle for Elk but right now my mind is saying Swede.
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Want to thin things out a bit, pick 2 calibers for everything in NA, Deer and larger.
.243 6.5x55 7mm Rem 30-06 300wm 338WM
The .30-06 and .338 Win Mag. Not on your list but; Now that I have a .300 Weatherby in a M70 I am thinking about buying a .270 Winchester. I have long thought that would be a great pairing for what you suggest. yeah, I already have rifles and reloading components for the above calibers so Id just as soon stick with those.
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I'd keep the Swede and either the 300 or 338. The 300 or 338 for brown bear or moose and maybe elk, and the Swede for everything else. pretty much where Im at right now.
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For over 40 years I've had a strong attachment to the 30-06 and the 338WM. It's good I spent so many years in Alaska, because the environ, makes those calibers more practical. While there I threw in the 375 H&H, and finally the 243. I don't see me getting rid of any of these calibers even when I get to the point where I don't/can't hunt anymore. Practically speaking anyone should be able to get by with a 30-06 for hunting throughout the majority of the world (as far as what most people are going to hunt). If I were trimming down to one, the 06 would be my choice.
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Keep the Swed, and 06 or the 300! my pick!
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Love my 338 and use it a lot. However, if going with two for NA, I'd say 243 and one 30 cal. 30-06 if you're keeping things inside of 5-600, and a 300 if you want more reach. Ive never shot anything outside of 500 but if Im truly thinning down to a pair, I think Im leaning 300WM.....just in case. is there anything a 338 does thats hands down better than the 300? Yeah........ shoot a 250 gr Nosler Partition ....... and in brown bear country that's a "plus" for me...but Ive only killed two of them so what do I know ? I am not one who thinks the 338 is some universe apart from a 300 magnum, but if we're playing games and picking "two" for everything I will take the 338 in brown bear country. I understand the shot placement thing. The 7 RM handles everything else. For darned sure. If you handload for both you could easily load a great 160 in the 7mm and a good 225-250 in your 338. Both would serve as great back ups to one another. Bob has mentioned cleaning out his stuff a few times and if I did those two would be the last men standing. Well, my 7 would be the Mashburn but the 338 would be old faithful.
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I cant disagree with that. Just debating internally how often id be loading up or down going with each of them.
If you can handle the recoil a 250 from a 338 is Ballistically pretty close to a 30-06 with 180.... so anything you'd hunt with the 30-06 would die just as handily with the 338. I know it's a lot of bullet but same Partition that Bob mentioned in the 338 takes deer pretty easily. For awhile I was on a binge hunting with my 338... wouldn't both me to only have that one rifle either.
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I cant disagree with that. Just debating internally how often id be loading up or down going with each of them.
If you can handle the recoil a 250 from a 338 is Ballistically pretty close to a 30-06 with 180.... so anything you'd hunt with the 30-06 would die just as handily with the 338. I know it's a lot of bullet but same Partition that Bob mentioned in the 338 takes deer pretty easily. For awhile I was on a binge hunting with my 338... wouldn't both me to only have that one rifle either. I could probably get rid of all of my rifles and hunt with just your 338 as well....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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warpig: I would not load up or down in either.
In the 7 RM I'd load a dependable 160;and in the 338 I'd load a very good 225-250.
I think you would be done. That's my view anyway.
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.338- I'd load a Barnes 160 ttsx for deer, pigs, goats, and sheep. 160-200 for black bear, and a 225-250 for moose and big bear. Elk any of the above.
Try that with a .243.
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These would be the cartridges my choices also. I think the 7 RM and 338 WM cover deer size and larger exceptionally well. My personal pick of bullets, provided they shot acceptable in my rifles, would be the 225 TSX or TTSX in the 338 and the 150 TTSX or the 145 LR TTSX in the 7mm. If these did not work for my rifles, there is no shortage of great bullets to choose from in these calibers. I would keep it very simple, one load and one bullet for each rifle. If I am ever overcome by logic and do a rifle purge, rifles in this cartridges will be my keepers. warpig: I would not load up or down in either.
In the 7 RM I'd load a dependable 160;and in the 338 I'd load a very good 225-250.
I think you would be done. That's my view anyway.
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If you were starting from scratch, I would agree with Brad.... But since you're starting with rifles you already own, you really answered your own question Yeah, I have lots of overlapping here. Problem is the the swede and the 06 are my favorite rifles, one being an 85 Finnlight and the other a M70 Featherweight classic. Both of those are as classic as you can get and they're already your FAVORITE rifles. Sell either one and you'll REGRET it. Use either one and you're sure to ENJOY it!!!
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