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Looking at their website and I see nothing new and just the same old boring models for their Model 70 lineup since BACO took over. Was hoping for a stainless 375 H&H this year but guess I'll have to find a stainless classic or have one built.
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Well just because the lineup remains static doesn't mean Winchester rifles have gone the way of the Dodo.....
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Certainly have less market share than in the past but still great rifles. The American hunting rifle is heading toward econo models rather than quality. A trend that unfortunately is happening with many products.
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Light years ahead of what ever POS comes out of Remington//
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Looking at their website and I see nothing new and just the same old boring models for their Model 70 lineup since BACO took over. Was hoping for a stainless 375 H&H this year but guess I'll have to find a stainless classic or have one built. ...and, and, wee little tiny sparkles of glitter inletted into the stock...oh, oh, and pink, the stock should be PINK!
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Bearstalker, Go to your local SW. They have the Alaskan models on sale at clearance. If they are sold out at yours they can request and ship one over to you. Cerakote the barrelled action. Bingo.
Sincerely,
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Used to I could walk in one of my local gun stores and see a winchester model 70 or two on the shelf but nowdays all you see is Ruger Americans and a few Remington 700 SPS models........Id say Winchester sells more shotguns than rifles these days......Its a shame......Hb
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Conduct is the best proof of character.
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Certainly have less market share than in the past but still great rifles. The American hunting rifle is heading toward econo models rather than quality. A trend that unfortunately is happening with many products. Everyone wants cheap [bleep] today.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Believe me I feel your pain but I don't think that's an entirely new phenomenon.
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Be nice to see some mid weight varmint/predator rigs in 223 and 204. Blind mag or hinged floorplates, none of this removable mag stuff that seems to be too common these days.
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Yep, I sure like My pre 64 Model 70's more and more.
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I better go pet some of my pre-64's
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There's nothing to complain about. A new model 70 is an outstanding rifle. Now look at a new Marlin 336 and compare what Remingtons done to it. They've weakened the receiver to the point where major gunsmiths refuse to rechamber them to more potent cartridges, they're not properly heat treating the carriers and action screws, they have all kinds of trouble screwing barrels in straight, and the wood and checkering are poor. Winchester has none of this going on. The model 70 is as good as ever.
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There's nothing to complain about. A new model 70 is an outstanding rifle. Now look at a new Marlin 336 and compare what Remingtons done to it. They've weakened the receiver to the point where major gunsmiths refuse to rechamber them to more potent cartridges, they're not properly heat treating the carriers and action screws, they have all kinds of trouble screwing barrels in straight, and the wood and checkering are poor. Winchester has none of this going on. The model 70 is as good as ever. Yep. The FN made Model 70s are darn good rifles. I heard the the early Remlins were pathetic, but I have read that things have improved. Bummer is that is not the case. Luckily there are an abundance of JMs out there.
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I hear very good things about the FN M70s. Damn sight better than what I am seeing with Remington. I hope Remington will get their schit together.
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Truth -- we received some rifles last week that I ordered in December of 2014! These were all Super Grades and a couple were special orders.
They were ordered with our direct rep, not through distribution.
Budget rifles truly dominate the market today. Most on here aren't focused on the budget rifle market. Our average shopper will walk right past the nice stuff to the Ruger Americans and Savage Axis rifles.
We have tons of high end stuff on the shelf and turns are low.
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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Be nice to see some mid weight varmint/predator rigs in 223 and 204. Blind mag or hinged floorplates, none of this removable mag stuff that seems to be too common these days. I cannot think of a worse setup for a predator rig than a blind mag...a hinged floor plate is only slightly better. Detachable mags, especially those of AICS persuasion, are fantastic.
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Light years ahead of what ever POS comes out of Remington// Stop it, Buckwheat......... Casey
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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Light years ahead of what ever POS comes out of Remington// You took the words right out of my mouth.
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