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Did not read everything, but could we have something for scale here?

Sure, why not? In the pic with the red oval, the 43.0 and 43.6 are 4.9" apart. It has been pointed out to me the progression does not look quite right, like I flubbed them. So - I will do it again.

That being, I don't see anything there that seems like a good starting place. Usually there will be a small range were a few rounds stack up.

Really get down on those targets, take time, maybe let the barrel cool, and do ones absolute best at squeezing the trigger and sustaining a follow through.

Is the barrel floated?

IMO, if you don't have a sub MOA gun to begin with, you may be looking at random variations more than solid data.

My 6.5-284 Krieger/M-70 is half MOA (or less) and I did my testing at 400, not 200 yds. Even at that distance, it was sometimes hard to tell where the bullets were landing, because they were hitting so close. Required a few 4 wheeler trips to sort it out. And, I have a great spotting scope.

DF

Moderators! My Kimber is engineered to theoretical MOA performance standards and my bedding and freefloat are par excellence. LOL

I promise to reshoot, with greater care, and maybe a little closer too.

Reshoot FURTHER. .3 grain increments loaded to max magazine length. Be sure to "load" charges that you think will be over-pressure. Shoot lighter charges first. Stop when you find pressure. Look for at least 3 consecutive shots that impact nearly the same place or at least the same horizontal plane. Shoot groups with the loads in the node AT THE SAME RANGE AS THE LADDER. Pick the best and shoot it at 100 yards. Tune with seating depth adjustments if necessary......

If I go further I'll need a whole sheet of plywood!

Thanks RC

634 yards isn't far enough to shoot a ladder?

It's far enough. I can't read

Rick,

Can you post the link to the method of loading incremental loads in a hundred round box, seating bullets with a hand press at the range. I really like that set up, works great. You don't end up a bunch of rounds to pull bullets.

DF


Edited to add, I had it Bookmarked. Here's the link. Some good ideas, some from Rick himself although published by others.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/for...detailed-article-video-42881/index3.html

That's how I do it also. Load them all long and seat with a hand press while shooting, works great.

One key element you are missing is the MV.

You will find that accuracy nodes also match up normally with MV nodes. That is the confirming factor.

you can shoot a ladder and at same time record the MV of each bullet. You will find that the bullets will make large jumps in MV (example say 25 fps) and then tend to tighten to maybe 8 fps when you hit a node and then open up back to 25 again as you go away from the node. You can normally find at least 2 nodes and that is also why MV is needed as one will be lower than the other and most hunters want the faster node.

(hint use colored magic markers on the tips of the bullets as it leaves the same colored ring on the target that is easy to discern each impact)

You need to shoot at a time of minimal wind such as early morning or late evening and 400 meters plus is great. You do not want to have bullets stacking on top of each other and unable to discern the jumps in elevation.