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Looking for a target load for the Glock 21. Thinking of possibly a 200 grain bullet with WST? Also would like a good load for hiking/woods.

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200gr cast SWC with 4.0gr Bullseye is a classic.

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^ not in a Glock.

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Most all the classic cast bullets for the 45 ACP are now available with Hi Tek coating, which reportedly is fine in Glocks.


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Originally Posted by SargeMO
Most all the classic cast bullets for the 45 ACP are now available with Hi Tek coating, which reportedly is fine in Glocks.

I think yondering is using kkm barrels, which as a general rule, i have done too. I haven't in the 21. But, i am mostly powdercoating these days and i wouldn't hesitate to run that hensley and gibbs 200swc with that coating through a glock.
Having said that and with the cavat i probably won't ever run out of the above bullet, i have cast the last few times with 228grain round nose, just so they will feed in just about anything, with powder coating applied.
mostly 231 powder used or unique.


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I've shot many , many LRN 200's in Glock , but SWC don't feed well if at all in Glock's , My favorite plinking load is 200gr LRN and 5gr Red Dot

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I was thinking Berry's plated bullets or another target bullet. I will probably stick with FMJ bullets? Thanks.

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Fmj yes Swc no.


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Originally Posted by K1500
^ not in a Glock.


LOL, don't tell that to my Glocks! I've fired many thousands of rounds of that load in my G21, before and after I started powder coating.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet about Glocks and lead. Most of it is pure ignorance, from people repeating what they heard from other ignorant people.

When bullets are sized right, OEM Glock barrels generally lead less than aftermarket barrels in my experience.

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I think yondering is using kkm barrels, which as a general rule, i have done too. I haven't in the 21.


I use the OEM Glock barrel in my 21. It's extremely accurate, and I've never seen any reason to change it for an aftermarket barrel. (I don't have a 45 suppressor, that would be my only reason.) The factory barrel also feeds just about anything.

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I've shot many , many LRN 200's in Glock , but SWC don't feed well if at all in Glock's , My favorite plinking load is 200gr LRN and 5gr Red Dot


There's something seriously wrong with your Glock if it won't feed SWC bullets. Maybe you are using some sort of aftermarket barrel? The factory barrels feed them flawlessly; if you have problems it's the mag or your load.

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My G23's, G30 and my son's G21 all ran fine with conventional SWC reloads FWIW.


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I use SWC bullets (lubed, powder coated, or jacketed) in 9mm, .40 S&W, 10mm, and 45 Auto Glocks. The only issues I've ever had were due to aftermarket barrels, and they were resolved by adjusting OAL.

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Many run lead in a Glock with no problems whatsoever, but it is against the recommendations of glock inc. Of course, so are reloads, so take that fwiw.

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I had my friend order a new barrel with conventional rifling for his Glockamole Model 21, so he could safely shoot my cast bullets. Just one more thing to not like about the tupperware gun.

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I have heard mixed reports about the 21 shooting and not shooting the SWC. It seems some do very well and others will not.

Anyone know of any deals on 200 grain or 230 grain FMJ bullets?

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i shot a 23 for years with lead bullets without issue until i learned that i shouldn't shoot lead bullets for years or i would have problems. i finally bought a kkm barrel.
Having said that i think a lot of it has to do i cleaned the barrel all the time, and after not that many lead bullets at a time.


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4.3 grains of Clays and a 200 grain SWC.

I have MANY tens of thousands of rounds of that load through various G21s I have owned and never ever had an issue.


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Nice Mackay! See if my pistol will run them? I'm thinking it should.

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I've ran hundreds of 200gr cast SWC through my G21 as well, without issue.

I was loading 5.0 gr Green Dot, and 6.0 gr Unique.

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For full power woods loads with 230 grain bullets, anyone have any favorite powder? I was thinking WSF or would Clays or other powder push a 230 grain to safe pressure and decent FPS?

Any of you guys know of best buys out there since I don't cast my own bullets?

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Originally Posted by Esox357
Nice Mackay! See if my pistol will run them? I'm thinking it should.


Of course it should, that's what we've been telling you. The "conflicting reports" are from people who are guessing and repeating stuff they read online.

As to "full power" loads, depends how heavy you want to go, but Clays is a poor choice there. Clays is great for target loads because of it's fast burn rate.

WSF works OK for, grain for grain is almost a duplicate of Unique but meters better; this is a good one for standard power 45 loads.

Power Pistol or Blue Dot are where it's at for the heavy 45 Auto loads, if you're planning to hot rod it a little. Depending on the bullet, my G21 will handle a 230gr cast up to 1,050-1,100 fps with a Blue Dot load.

You do not need an aftermarket barrel for any of the loads discussed above, the OEM barrel is excellent and of much higher quality than most of the aftermarket options. Do watch your brass for bulging if you hot rod it though. The signs are pretty clear if you work up carefully.

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