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Originally Posted by cast10K
For a first time custom the best advice I can give you is build it lighter and in a milder chambering than you think you want.



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Thinking a 700 long action, 300WSM, dbm, 20" barrel, Timney trigger, maybe a McMillan lightweight stock. He is a fan of those short action rounds in a long action so you can run the bullets way out. Would AIing it be a good addition? Not sure on barrel contour - don't want a heavy pig. Twisted for long, heavy, bullets - best twist?



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Blueprint #1
Unlimited budget

1. Defiance long action
2. Brux, Bartlien, Krieger fluted 24"-25" long
3.Mcmillan gamescout edge or Manners EH1/1A
4.P.T.&G. aluminum Oberndorf bottom metal
5.Nightforce NSX 5.5-22 or Schmidt & Bender
6. Nightforce ultra light rings
7. Jewel trigger



Blueprint #2
Midrange budget

1. Rem M700. long action
2. Brux, Bartlien, Krieger, Lilja.... no flutes 24"-25"
3. Mcmillan Gamescout
4.Factory BDL bottom metal
5. Super Sniper 4-20, Burris XTR11 4-20,Bushnell ELRH 4.5-18
6. Burris XTR tactical rings
7. Timney or Shilen trigger


Blueprint #3
Budget model

1. Savage 110 action
2.Krieger criterion pre-fit. McGowen pre-fit, X barrel pre-fit
3.Boyds pro varmint laminated stock
4.Super Sniper 10x, Super Sniper 3-15
5.Super Sniper rings or Weaver tactical rings
6. Re-spring and hone factory trigger, or use accutrigger

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Number one choice would be
#1 7MM Rem mag
#2 28 Nosler
#3 3oo Win Mag

7mm barrels would be 1/8 twist
308 barrel would be 1/9 twist

Contour would be chosen after other components to come in at 9-10lbs.

This would give you a fairly lightweight practical long range rifle, with much horsepower.


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It'd be tough to top a stainless steel SA 700, chambered in 7 SAUM/WSM with an AICS footprint bottom metal, barreled in a Remington magnumish contour twisted 1:8, a McMillan standard-fill stock with your preferred ergos, scoped to your desires. Flinging a high B.C. bullet it'll do most anything you'd ask of a rifle in the 8-8.5 pound range.



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Originally Posted by 406_SBC
It'd be tough to top a stainless steel SA 700, chambered in 7 SAUM/WSM with an AICS footprint bottom metal, barreled in a Remington magnumish contour twisted 1:8, a McMillan standard-fill stock with your preferred ergos, scoped to your desires. Flinging a high B.C. bullet it'll do most anything you'd ask of a rifle in the 8-8.5 pound range.



I've put together pretty much the rifle you described. It is patterned after a GAP non-typical.

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WSM 700 action
Factory 7 SAUM barrel from the fire
High tech stock
Atlasworx DBM
PTG bolt handle Acutig'd on X caliber fluted and nitrided

8# on the nose as pictured

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Originally Posted by ranger1
So there is a custom builder here in town. By all accounts he does outstanding work. He's a long range shooter, is even on a long range shooting TV show. I've done some shooting with him and he's gotten me interested in putting together a rifle for myself.

Now he's given me some ideas and they sound good to my untrained ears. I thought I'd bounce them off you fellas and get some thoughts.

Thinking a 700 long action, 300WSM, dbm, 20" barrel, Timney trigger, maybe a McMillan lightweight stock. He is a fan of those short action rounds in a long action so you can run the bullets way out. Would AIing it be a good addition? Not sure on barrel contour - don't want a heavy pig. Twisted for long, heavy, bullets - best twist?



With that action and 20" barrel, think I'd be looking at a 6.5x55 Swede with a 1:8 twist ER Shaw tube(#1 contour). Would be a handy, accurate, hunting rifle.


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Originally Posted by nimrod1949
Originally Posted by 406_SBC
It'd be tough to top a stainless steel SA 700, chambered in 7 SAUM/WSM with an AICS footprint bottom metal, barreled in a Remington magnumish contour twisted 1:8, a McMillan standard-fill stock with your preferred ergos, scoped to your desires. Flinging a high B.C. bullet it'll do most anything you'd ask of a rifle in the 8-8.5 pound range.



I've put together pretty much the rifle you described. It is patterned after a GAP non-typical.

[Linked Image]

WSM 700 action
Factory 7 SAUM barrel from the fire
High tech stock
Atlasworx DBM
PTG bolt handle Acutig'd on X caliber fluted and nitrided

8# on the nose as pictured
I've a rifle very similar to yours (McMillan Sako Hunter and a 6x42 in steel mounts) that's 8 pounds and change. Just got it together a year ago and it has been a hammer on everything at which it has been pointed, (2 caribou bulls, a bull elk and a bull moose) all with 162 A-Max. It's a long ways from my only rifle, but I've a hard time picking up anything else.


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Tikka T3x CTR ( Or Super Varmint in 300WSM, 300WM, 7RM )
308 WIN ( or 300WSM, 300WM, 7RM )
McMillan A3 with adjustable comb, and picatinny rail for bipod
Bushnell 3-12x44 LRHS
Atlas Bipod
Suppressor if allowed in state

155 grain Scenars..


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Originally Posted by ranger1


Thinking a 700 long action, 300WSM, dbm, 20" barrel,



People have 700 longs chambered in 257rob., .284win, etc and are completely happy with them.
So i don't see any obscure issue with WSM (if you want it), thats what custom is all about.
I don't understand the 20" tube for such an overbore cartridge.

Ive had my experience 20" 30cal barrels, the shortness offered no real world advantage to me.

However I would find real joy in a Ruger ultralight in .250sav with 20".. grin


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As longbarrel and others have said, the short barrel ain't the ticket. I do agree with the long action.

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First thing I would not do would be to use a 20" barrel.


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So from what I've been able to glean here, nothing wrong with the long action idea, go a little longer on the barrel, probably a standard fill McMillan. What about detachable magazines? I'm not against the idea, I would assume that one would be able to use one that's long enough to accommodate this round in a long action? I have a couple of rifles that fit the bill perfectly for sub 30 caliber carry rifles. He's a big fan of these WSM rounds when you chamber them to allow seating the bullet way out there. Anyone have any experience with that?

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by cast10K
For a first time custom the best advice I can give you is build it lighter and in a milder chambering than you think you want.



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The more I shoot, the older I get, the less I enjoy recoil and filling large cases with lots of powder.

A medium weight 6.5 Creed or .260 would be just about right in my book for hunting and shooting.


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If you want to save a build, I have a Rifles Inc in 7 STW that would fit the bill. Lex Webernick knows how to build a rifle.

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Originally Posted by nimrod1949
Originally Posted by 406_SBC
It'd be tough to top a stainless steel SA 700, chambered in 7 SAUM/WSM with an AICS footprint bottom metal, barreled in a Remington magnumish contour twisted 1:8, a McMillan standard-fill stock with your preferred ergos, scoped to your desires. Flinging a high B.C. bullet it'll do most anything you'd ask of a rifle in the 8-8.5 pound range.



I've put together pretty much the rifle you described. It is patterned after a GAP non-typical.

[Linked Image]

WSM 700 action
Factory 7 SAUM barrel from the fire
High tech stock
Atlasworx DBM
PTG bolt handle Acutig'd on X caliber fluted and nitrided

8# on the nose as pictured


Why the dumb tape? Snow too deep?


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Custom rifles can bring alot of satisfaction and alot of pride, etc. They can also drain the wallet in frustration.....
Having done four customs for myself, I've come to the conclusion that one should be very clear on what you need and that you can't get it in a factory rifle. Or a modified factory rifle.
By simply changing the stock or the barrel on a factory rifle it is possible to find yourself with a much different rifle.
The other thing I've noticed is that you seem impressed with long range shooting and hunting. All of the truly effective long range hunters I've known or followed on this site have one thing in common. They shoot far more than most hunters do. Without this dedication to practice at the ranges they expect to shoot game, they simply can't get it done when the time comes to shoot their throphy. A laser range finder, a bipod and a fancy magnum rifle will not do it. E


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The other thing I've noticed is that you seem impressed with long range shooting and hunting.


That is a weird comment and just shows how F'ed up a question about something can get on here....

But from what I've seen on here, Ranger can more than hold his own in the hunting department. I'd bet his shooting isn't too shabby either.

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Originally Posted by Judman
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Originally Posted by 406_SBC
It'd be tough to top a stainless steel SA 700, chambered in 7 SAUM/WSM with an AICS footprint bottom metal, barreled in a Remington magnumish contour twisted 1:8, a McMillan standard-fill stock with your preferred ergos, scoped to your desires. Flinging a high B.C. bullet it'll do most anything you'd ask of a rifle in the 8-8.5 pound range.



I've put together pretty much the rifle you described. It is patterned after a GAP non-typical.

[Linked Image]

WSM 700 action
Factory 7 SAUM barrel from the fire
High tech stock
Atlasworx DBM
PTG bolt handle Acutig'd on X caliber fluted and nitrided

8# on the nose as pictured


Why the dumb tape? Snow too deep?


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Honestly the whole WSM case built on a long action screams schitt build to me, but whatever floats your boat.

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