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My .243 likes them and my .30-06 doesn't. Wish that was reversed.


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Old Savage 110 .243 shoots 100 grain Partitions, the old bronze colored ones, into <1/2".

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Originally Posted by ExpatFromOK
My .243 likes them and my .30-06 doesn't. Wish that was reversed.
Here is the main list of .30 Partitions. 150gr, 165gr, 180gr Protected Point, 180gr standard, 200gr, 220gr. Of these 6 Partitions, How many did you try? How many powders did you try with each? How many OAL did you try with each powder? As you can see, I assume. When you make a blanket statement, (my 30-06 Doesn't like Partitions) Everyone who reads it has no idea if your 30-06 loves or hates Partitions. You give no information to base an opinion on. I can write ( My Mergansers always taste like chicken) Anyone who has eaten a single bite of a Merganser, Knows the statement is definitely not factual.


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Originally Posted by baltz526
Originally Posted by ExpatFromOK
My .243 likes them and my .30-06 doesn't. Wish that was reversed.
Here is the main list of .30 Partitions. 150gr, 165gr, 180gr Protected Point, 180gr standard, 200gr, 220gr. Of these 6 Partitions, How many did you try? How many powders did you try with each? How many OAL did you try with each powder? As you can see, I assume. When you make a blanket statement, (my 30-06 Doesn't like Partitions) Everyone who reads it has no idea if your 30-06 loves or hates Partitions. You give no information to base an opinion on. I can write ( My Mergansers always taste like chicken) Anyone who has eaten a single bite of a Merganser, Knows the statement is definitely not factual.


What did you expect? He's using .243 bullets in his 06... laugh


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I consider the Partition as the benchmark others must live up to. I load and shoot others but only to compare and contrast.


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My Mergansers taste just like Chicken!
My 308 and 30-06 like partitions, esp since I got a Forester seater die for my 06


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Better enjoy your Partitions, didn't Obama put them on a fast track for elimination from federal land? whistle


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Originally Posted by baltz526
Originally Posted by ExpatFromOK
My .243 likes them and my .30-06 doesn't. Wish that was reversed.
Here is the main list of .30 Partitions. 150gr, 165gr, 180gr Protected Point, 180gr standard, 200gr, 220gr. Of these 6 Partitions, How many did you try? How many powders did you try with each? How many OAL did you try with each powder? As you can see, I assume. When you make a blanket statement, (my 30-06 Doesn't like Partitions) Everyone who reads it has no idea if your 30-06 loves or hates Partitions. You give no information to base an opinion on. I can write ( My Mergansers always taste like chicken) Anyone who has eaten a single bite of a Merganser, Knows the statement is definitely not factual.


What you can take from my post is exactly what I said.

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Try a faster powder under your favorite Partition, and get the pressure up higher. They need to obdurate quickly and fully to be accurate.

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They definitely can shoot well despite popular belief:
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They also shoot well in one of my 30-06s, a 7Wby, and a 300WM.

I just bought 800 .243 95s and also have 300 .243 100s to try. Plan to try them in a new T3 Lam 243, 6mm Rem with 8tw Brux 3, and my 6-06 with 9tw Krieger. Hopefully they'll shoot well in some of those rigs.

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More "partitions don't shoot"..... I love these threads wink


It wasn't started with that in mind.

Thanks to all that attempted to answer my questions.

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It wasn't started with that in mind.

Thanks to all that attempted to answer my questions.


When you get guys complaining about 2-3" groups they trend in that direction every time and you know it as well as I do.Eventually someone who can't make a Partition shoot will inject that into the topic of the thread. I didn't put it there but it will show up anyway sure as hell..... smile

My comments were not directed toward you anyway. Sorry you took personal offense.




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I don't own as many rifles anymore and in the 30 years of rolling my own loads for about 40 rifles and using Partitions in all of them I always felt that it was a sign of a sick rifle if the Partitions didn't group well with at least one type of powder/load. In some cases the rifle went down the road, others just needed some simple fixing, maybe a new spout in some cases.

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My comments were not directed toward you anyway. Sorry you took personal offense.


No offense taken. Just making a statement. smile

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I thought the Nitrex ammo was Speer?


Yes, with the Grandslam bullets.


Yes, imagine that, Nitrex used speer bullets, not swift bullets, who would have guessed. grin

Does show one needs to have some knowledge and not take everything said on the internet as true.


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More "partitions don't shoot"..... I love these threads wink


It wasn't started with that in mind.

Thanks to all that attempted to answer my questions.


When you get guys complaining about 2-3" groups they trend in that direction every time and you know it as well as I do.Eventually someone who can't make a Partition shoot will inject that into the topic of the thread. I didn't put it there but it will show up anyway sure as hell..... smile

My comments were not directed toward you anyway. Sorry you took personal offense.


There is one Partition bullet that I've never had particularly good success with, the 125 grain 0.264" variety. I haven't tried it in the 6.5 Creedmoor yet, but I have yet to find a load that I was happy with in my 260s, 6.5x55s, 6.5-284s, or 256 Newton. OTOH, in 0.264" diameter the 120 grain BT and 130 grain AB were easy to shoot accurately, as are all of the 129 grain Hornadys. There are some bullets that seem easy to shoot good groups with; the 55 and 60 grain VMax in 0.224", the 75 grain AMax and Sierra HP in 0.257", and the 129 grain SST in 0.264".

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Originally Posted by CLB
I don't own as many rifles anymore and in the 30 years of rolling my own loads for about 40 rifles and using Partitions in all of them I always felt that it was a sign of a sick rifle if the Partitions didn't group well with at least one type of powder/load. In some cases the rifle went down the road, others just needed some simple fixing, maybe a new spout in some cases.


Amen too that.


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Jeff,

I may have mentioned this before when you brought up the 125 6.5 Partition, but I just looked at my loading notes again, and it's shot well under an inch not only in both of my .260's but in a 6.5-06 AND my 16x16/6.5x57R Sauer drilling. Apparently I haven't tried it any of my other 6.5 rifles, but so far it's batting a thousand.


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Just to be contrarian, I just finished an article in the latest African Hunter magazine where author Terry Wieland related his hand loading experience with a lovely, Al Biesen custom 270 and his "never fail" 130r 270 load consisting of 59.5gr of H-4831 (he also stated H-4831 was the traditional "go to" powder in the 270). His results with three bullets (five shot groups) were as follows
Sierra 130gr- 1.1"
Swift Scirocco- 1.2"
Nosler Partition- 3"

Personally, Partitions have always shot well for me, but never the accuracy consistency I've gotten from TTSXs across calibers from the 257 Weatherby to the 338 WM.



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I have a 308 Norma, rechambered military barreled Springfield 1903. Before it was re crowned all it COULD shoot well was partitions. I have been the the open base helps seal the exit from the barrel. After the re crown even boat tails would group up. Are you using firsts or factory seconds? I have found factory seconds to not be very consistent in weight. They often weigh any thing but what they are supposed to. I then weigh them and "profile them" I know I know, don't tell a liberal, into groups of similar weight , then reload those groups together.


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