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I agree. Seen it in real life more often than not.
Additionally, many of "The Greatest Generation" tenaciously clung to the Democratic Party, even when it shat on them.
I professionally cared for those folks, and most I had experience with, were abrasive and uncaring toward their children, when then as adults, rarely visited even prior to their death. Money doesn't equate to love and teaching.
That is telling. Kids mirror their upbringing.

I have two "worthless millennials". My son has two college degrees (one before leaving high school) and is entering the fire Academy with the next class. He is trained for fighting wildfires now, and working manual labor now because he LIKES working with his hands and is good at it.
My second "worthless millennial " is an EMT, entered bootcamp to become a combat medic, and blew out her knee in training. She is now married (to navy) and raising my first grandchild. (Did i mention she has a "save pin" from her very first squad run? Or that she took 11th and 12th grade simultaneously, because it bored her?

I'm damn proud of both my millennials.

I was thinking. How many of the Great Generation came back from the war with undiagnosed PTSD? Only the most severe symptoms back then were recognized, but also not understanding on how to treat it. Could this possibility have affected how they raised their kids?
But then, need to look at the Viet Nam War veterans, and how going to war may have affected their ability to raise kids.

Maybe they want to go fishing or hunting, or spend time with their wife/kids?

Sorry, but the days of owning your employees are coming to an end.

I used to work on cars up though the 70s models.
Now I pop the hood and don't even know what I'm looking at

Over the last 5-7 years I have been involved in interviewing applicants for for several Technical positions. We don't seek a degree, we just seek someone with a mechanical,electrical,hydraulic background that is willing to travel. While everyone here may have the perfect kid, I can tell you it is almost impossible to find a younger person that has a mechanical background and is willing to travel. If you were just a little motivated and had people skills, you could pull down $80k/yr easy and if you were very motivated, you could probably come close to $100k. This is all without a degree. Sometimes you have to sacrifice the weekends hunting and the evening with the kids to get ahead. IF you think someone is just going to walk up and hand you these things, you are part of the problem.

Another completely wrong and out of touch answer. I have a slew of millenials that work for me...I am classified as a millenial. I work them hard and they make me money...It is a mindset that is compounded by nonsense drivel like this. You all need to get off your self appropriated high horse and actually learn what the younger adults of this nation are capable of.

WE ALL??

You obviously haven't read all of the posts. Most of them are very supportive of "you all".

If you dropped the "all" from your post I would agree with you. Hanco is out of touch on a lot of subjects and loves the sound bite.

A lot of the Trades are hurting for apprentices.Kids now a days are brain washed into thinking they need a College degree and then find out four years with a BS in Basketweaving is worthless. Journeyman Electricians,Plumbers,Pipe-fitters are pulling in some good money.

Only partly true. Americans regardless of age are willing to work--they just want to be paid an honest wage that will support them (and their family).

A lot of this is the same BS that claimed "illegal aliens are doing the work that Americans don't want to do". No, Americans don't want to be paid slave wages.

If Trump is even halfway successful, it is the hourly wage and middle class salary earners who will see the fastest rise in wages--as opposed to the upper middle class and very wealthy class who have seen the biggest rise in income.

Casey

Maybe if parents take away the kids cellphones the kids may stop acting like media zombies.

Remind me never to get stuck in a foxhole, or on some bastion with you.

You sound like a specialist in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

....this is no time for defeatism.

GTC

Casey I hope you're right but I'm not seeing Trump load his cabinet with people showing a track record of concern for the hourly worker and middle class. The 1%ers will take care of themselves long before they'll concern themselves about the rest of us. Congress for far too long, both Republican and Democrat, has passed tax laws that have resulted in the have/have not separation in our country far more than an unwillingness of millennials to work. I'd love to see a flat tax applied to all forms of income including dividends, bonuses, etc. Warren Buffet hit it pretty square when he said his secretary paid a higher rate of tax on earned money than he did. I don't see the incoming administration leading the charge to change that. I certainly do hope to be surprised but I think it's unlikely.

Exactly right. The trouble is far too many companies expect folks to work for wages they can't possibly live on.

I posted on another topic.

Early this week I certified a welder for a gas pipe welding project he has been asked to work on.

He has been welding since the mid 70's. The company that employs him is paying him $25.00 per hour.

He told me that he is making less now than he was 20 years ago. I agreed with him I have watched the wages go down and down as time has went by. And with Obummer i office they have crashed big time.

The welder was a very good welder with a lot of skills.
he has worked all over the country chasing the money to support his family that is all grown up now.

The company can not find good quality welders willing to take the low pay and the company to be competitive can not pay any more than they do already.

Insurance killed my company. I had 3 Mil. and was required to take on another 9 Mil. to keep my client so I was finished.

Company's can not pay more to there workers when they have to pay out so much in extortion insurance.

When they hire Illegals it is for the most part under the table and they do not have to carry the insurance for those workers and they still pay them less money.

This cycle needs to be changed before things get better.

20 years ago I was making almost double what I can get now and I can not find a job they all say I am over qualified for the jobs I am trying to get.

And quit letting them live in the basement till they are 30.

You are never gonna get rich flipping burgers and working the production line. When you can do something the next person won't or can't, then you become valuable.

Something you might be missing is the number of jobs those baby boomers had were destroyed by Obama and some were taken by illegals when an unscrupulous business owner cut some cost.

Nobody said anything about getting rich flipping burgers you dumb SOB.

Entry level jobs that used to be a stepping stone for high school kids are now locked up by 40 something year old Mexicans. That's also the reason that there's a push to raise minimum wage to a "living" wage. Without work experience, any work experience, it's tough for kids to get to the next level.