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300 WSM should also be around for some time and a person can always neck that down.
7mmWSM is the odd one-out with shoulder set at 1.701" 270wsm, 300wsm ,325wsm are all 1.664"
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How does it shoot as a .325? Who knows, I've never shot it haha.
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Also, where would the campfire send said rifle for an all-in-one barrel/bedding/accurizing. I was thinking of shipping it off to Pac-Nor but I don't believe they will accurize or bed the rifle, as well as get out any of the possible Montana "kinks."
I would send it to Adam Bentley of Dresden Gun Co. He knows the "kinks" and does excellent work. He did a super job on my Kimber. Thanks I will look into it. I already have nearly a grand into the gun. I am thinking of just selling it and buying another so I don't drop another grand into it...then another grand on optics. Having $3k or more into a production rifle...I'm not sure how I feel about that. Thanks for the replies guys
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Sell it. Take the money and run.
Then buy a rifle in whatever 7mm lifts your skirt. Excellent advice from the guy who was gushing about the 338 RCM a few months ago Just can't help exaggerating, can you? "Gushing"? You need to re-read what I wrote: "As far as I'm concerned the .338 RCM is a great cartridge in concept but not without drawbacks, including increased bang and recoil when used in shorter, lighter rifles. In rifles with standard length actions and barrels the .338WM makes more sense." https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Is_the_338_RCM_completely_#Post11423864I do find the 20" .338RCM interesting, especially at $499: https://www.cdnnsports.com/338rcm-hm77rcm-20-wal-sgt.html?___SID=UIf you read the thread most of my comments had to do with the Ruger 20" barreled .338 RCM rifle, as opposed to the .338RCM cartridge itself. The Ruger rifle comes with iron sights, which I prefer, and is, IMHO, in a much handier length than the .325WSM Kimber Montana, which has a 24" length and no irons. Neither cartridge has much of a future for non-handloaders. As a handloader, I'll take the .338RCM in the Ruger Hawkeye package over the .325 WSM in the Kimber Montana package - without hesitation.
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Sell it. Take the money and run.
Then buy a rifle in whatever 7mm lifts your skirt. Excellent advice from the guy who was gushing about the 338 RCM a few months ago Just can't help exaggerating, can you? "Gushing"? You need to re-read what I wrote: "As far as I'm concerned the .338 RCM is a great cartridge in concept but not without drawbacks, including increased bang and recoil when used in shorter, lighter rifles. In rifles with standard length actions and barrels the .338WM makes more sense." https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Is_the_338_RCM_completely_#Post11423864I do find the 20" .338RCM interesting, especially at $499: https://www.cdnnsports.com/338rcm-hm77rcm-20-wal-sgt.html?___SID=UIf you read the thread most of my comments had to do with the Ruger 20" barreled .338 RCM rifle, as opposed to the .338RCM cartridge itself. The Ruger rifle comes with iron sights, which I prefer, and is, IMHO, in a much handier length than the .325WSM Kimber Montana, which has a 24" length and no irons. Neither cartridge has much of a future for non-handloaders. As a handloader, I'll take the .338RCM in the Ruger Hawkeye package over the .325 WSM in the Kimber Montana package - without hesitation. Thanks for digging that old post up and helping me prove my point.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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The search feature is your friend. Unfortunately there is little that can be done to improve your reading comprehension or, apparently, your lack of good memory.
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Three years ago I borrowed my 325WSM to my buddy after I tagged out on my cow and he fell, knocking his scope all to hell. He punched a cow the next day with a 200gr Partition at 265. He liked the rifle/load so much he bought it and shot his third cow two weeks ago in her bed at 140. That is four cows for two guys in three years. Not a lot of meat damage either. That Kimber Montana is going no where but back in his safe.
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The search feature is your friend. Unfortunately there is little that can be done to improve your reading comprehension or, apparently, your lack of good memory.
I remember you frothing at the mouth over a cartridge with no future life and little practical advantage. Was I wrong?
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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The search feature is your friend. Unfortunately there is little that can be done to improve your reading comprehension or, apparently, your lack of good memory.
I remember you frothing at the mouth over a cartridge with no future life and little practical advantage. Was I wrong? Yes. It only happened in your imagination.
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The search feature is your friend. Unfortunately there is little that can be done to improve your reading comprehension or, apparently, your lack of good memory.
I remember you frothing at the mouth over a cartridge with no future life and little practical advantage. Was I wrong? Yes. It only happened in your imagination. That's weird because you posted a link to a thread where you were doing just that. I hope your kids figure it out soon and call the men in white coats to come pick you up.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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The search feature is your friend. Unfortunately there is little that can be done to improve your reading comprehension or, apparently, your lack of good memory.
I remember you frothing at the mouth over a cartridge with no future life and little practical advantage. Was I wrong? Yes. It only happened in your imagination. That's weird because you posted a link to a thread where you were doing just that. I hope your kids figure it out soon and call the men in white coats to come pick you up. What I wrote in that thread is called 'damning with faint praise'. Big difference from 'gushing' or 'frothing at the mouth' but I really don't expect you to get the difference. What interests me about the .338RCM is the performance from the 20" Ruger package. Being a handloader the, if I were to purchase one I'd also buy a lifetime supply of brass, as I've recommended to others. Any non-handloader that buys one needs to know that ammo could be a big problem. But, even though I handload, I haven't purchased one because of multiple problems, with brass availability and cost being a big one but reduced performance from the .338WM being another. According to Hodgdon data, a 24" barreled .338RCM would get 100fps less than my 22" .338WM. A 20" barrel on the .338RCM would probably lose 200fps or more. Not really what I'm looking for.
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300 WSM should also be around for some time and a person can always neck that down.
7mmWSM is the odd one-out with shoulder set at 1.701" 270wsm, 300wsm ,325wsm are all 1.664" Not sure of your point but plenty of guys neck down 300 WSM and then fire form it for 7 WSM.
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I'd rebarrel to 300 WSM (or 7mm WSM) with a custom contour that mimmicks the factory tube, but mic's .618" @ 22" but I'd run it out to 24" and whatever it mic's there. Probably around .610"
The 8400 Montana stock is ideal to soak up WSM recoil. The 8400's biggest fault is the no.1 contour it comes with from the factory.
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I had the factory contour duplicated out to the end of the forearm and then tapered to .600 at the muzzle on my 7 SAUM, it balances well but it's not a Montana it's a classic.
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I agree Brad's comment about 8400 stock, my 7WSM is so much nicer to shoot than the previous 7WSM 70 Classic shooting 162's or the 300WSM Extreme Weather shooting 155 Scenar's or 180's.
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RDW,
What barrels did you use and who did the work?
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In my opinion, the 300 wsm in Kimber Montana is the ultimate utility rifle. It has the horsepower to utilize a 200+ effectively, the 180-168s are pile drivers. If speed is the need, 150-130. The Montana soaks up recoil nicely, and is still light enough to hump in the mountains.
May not be the most glamorous, or have the highest BC bullets available, but based on the Montana platform is pretty hard to beat for NA hunting.
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Not sure of your point but plenty of guys neck down 300 WSM and then fire form it for 7 WSM.
My point is caution...Not everyone is aware of the shoulder location differences for head spacing - To avoid weakening the web and inducing the possibility of head separation, one should create a false shoulder on the neck of 300wsm.
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The search feature is your friend. Unfortunately there is little that can be done to improve your reading comprehension or, apparently, your lack of good memory.
I remember you frothing at the mouth over a cartridge with no future life and little practical advantage. Was I wrong? Yes. It only happened in your imagination. That's weird because you posted a link to a thread where you were doing just that. I hope your kids figure it out soon and call the men in white coats to come pick you up. What I wrote in that thread is called 'damning with faint praise'. Big difference from 'gushing' or 'frothing at the mouth' but I really don't expect you to get the difference. What interests me about the .338RCM is the performance from the 20" Ruger package. Being a handloader the, if I were to purchase one I'd also buy a lifetime supply of brass, as I've recommended to others. Any non-handloader that buys one needs to know that ammo could be a big problem. But, even though I handload, I haven't purchased one because of multiple problems, with brass availability and cost being a big one but reduced performance from the .338WM being another. According to Hodgdon data, a 24" barreled .338RCM would get 100fps less than my 22" .338WM. A 20" barrel on the .338RCM would probably lose 200fps or more. Not really what I'm looking for. Maybe I'm getting old, but I seem to remember your calling the Hornady hotline after your RCM erection wouldn't subside after 4 hours.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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