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300 WSM should also be around for some time and a person can always neck that down.

Good Luck

I would go small with a 6.5 RSAUM or go big with a 450 Marlin.

Also, where would the campfire send said rifle for an all-in-one barrel/bedding/accurizing. I was thinking of shipping it off to Pac-Nor but I don't believe they will accurize or bed the rifle, as well as get out any of the possible Montana "kinks."

Sell it. Take the money and run.

Then buy a rifle in whatever 7mm lifts your skirt.

300 WSM should also be around for some time and a person can always neck that down.

How does it shoot as a .325?

I would send it to Adam Bentley of Dresden Gun Co. He knows the "kinks" and does excellent work. He did a super job on my Kimber.

Excellent advice from the guy who was gushing about the 338 RCM a few months ago

Just can't help exaggerating, can you?

"Gushing"? You need to re-read what I wrote:

"As far as I'm concerned the .338 RCM is a great cartridge in concept but not without drawbacks, including increased bang and recoil when used in shorter, lighter rifles. In rifles with standard length actions and barrels the .338WM makes more sense."

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth..._Is_the_338_RCM_completely_#Post11423864

I do find the 20" .338RCM interesting, especially at $499:
https://www.cdnnsports.com/338rcm-hm77rcm-20-wal-sgt.html?___SID=U

If you read the thread most of my comments had to do with the Ruger 20" barreled .338 RCM rifle, as opposed to the .338RCM cartridge itself. The Ruger rifle comes with iron sights, which I prefer, and is, IMHO, in a much handier length than the .325WSM Kimber Montana, which has a 24" length and no irons.

Neither cartridge has much of a future for non-handloaders. As a handloader, I'll take the .338RCM in the Ruger Hawkeye package over the .325 WSM in the Kimber Montana package - without hesitation.

The search feature is your friend. Unfortunately there is little that can be done to improve your reading comprehension or, apparently, your lack of good memory.

I remember you frothing at the mouth over a cartridge with no future life and little practical advantage.

Was I wrong?

Yes. It only happened in your imagination.

That's weird because you posted a link to a thread where you were doing just that.

I hope your kids figure it out soon and call the men in white coats to come pick you up.

7mmWSM is the odd one-out with shoulder set at 1.701"
270wsm, 300wsm ,325wsm are all 1.664"

Not sure of your point but plenty of guys neck down 300 WSM and then fire form it for 7 WSM.

What I wrote in that thread is called 'damning with faint praise'. Big difference from 'gushing' or 'frothing at the mouth' but I really don't expect you to get the difference.

What interests me about the .338RCM is the performance from the 20" Ruger package. Being a handloader the, if I were to purchase one I'd also buy a lifetime supply of brass, as I've recommended to others. Any non-handloader that buys one needs to know that ammo could be a big problem.

But, even though I handload, I haven't purchased one because of multiple problems, with brass availability and cost being a big one but reduced performance from the .338WM being another. According to Hodgdon data, a 24" barreled .338RCM would get 100fps less than my 22" .338WM. A 20" barrel on the .338RCM would probably lose 200fps or more. Not really what I'm looking for.

RDW,
What barrels did you use and who did the work?
Thanks!

This ^^^^

My point is caution...Not everyone is aware of the shoulder location differences for head spacing -
To avoid weakening the web and inducing the possibility of head separation, one should create a
false shoulder on the neck of 300wsm.

Maybe I'm getting old, but I seem to remember your calling the Hornady hotline after your RCM erection wouldn't subside after 4 hours.

Blame it on getting old if you want but your memory seems to be full of things that never happened. You're like the dumbocrats Reagan described when he said "It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

But I doubt the first part of Reagan's statement that applies to you.

So you didn't get so excited about the RCMs that you called Hornady?

You said you remember me doing it but now you're confused? Kind of proves my point about you and what Reagan said about dumbocrats. But I'm not at all surprised.

No, I never called Hornady about any of the RCM cartridges. When thinking about building a .338-375 Ruger wildcat I did call them about custom dies and was quoted a price of $150. Since I wrote about doing so on this forum and that is the only time I've spoken with them, you are once again conflating things in your mind. In other words you are remembering things that never happened.

Take your meds.

Over lunch I called Tim at Hornady Product Support and asked if the 3040fps was a mistake. He confirmed it.

Whether Hornady used a 20" or 24" barrel length really doesn't make much difference to me, although they claim 20". 2900fps would be fine which is still better than a 20" .30-06 can do. What I want is an iron-sighted carbine length rifle and for $499 the Ruger Hawkeye .300RCM fits the bill better than anything else I know of.

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You can find your original post right here:
Coyote Hunter Lied

Whew! Does that mean this pissing match is over? I sure hope so.

Part of me wants to troll a bit to get it rolling again just to see how long we can keep them going back and forth

Arguing with Coyote Hunter is one of my favorite pastimes, right behind hunting, fishing, and skiing.

I'm not sure what I'll do with my spare time if he concedes so easily.

Conceding nothing, but while you're in a funk wondering what to do, I'm in The Bahamas with very limited internet connectivity. And having a great time.

I want one for a 6.5SAUM.

Did one on a Win Mod 70 WSM EW and was very nice, but I sold it

The Montana 6.5SAUM would be very nice.

Cheers, Chris

I purchased a KM 325 a few years ago with the intent of using it as a donor rifle to make a 7wsm. I finally have the funds as well as a trip coming up next year that I need to have the rifle for. Problem is now, brass it hard to find and expensive, and I am concerned I'll end up investing in a "dead" cartridge. Any thoughts to a 7mm caliber for the conversion?


Also, where would the campfire send said rifle for an all-in-one barrel/bedding/accurizing. I was thinking of shipping it off to Pac-Nor but I don't believe they will accurize or bed the rifle, as well as get out any of the possible Montana "kinks."


Thanks

i was thinking about buying one to do a 6.5, maybe the new hornady round, was wondering how the action feeds a saum case,,,

As you've noted, headstamped 7 WSM brass is rare and expensive. You'd need around 200-250 cases to get through a barrel. I think you could finangle that on Gunbroker for ~ $500-600.

I haven't read the thread so I apologize if I'm repeating stuff.

I had a .325 Montana that I had rebarreled to 7 WSM... a 7 WSM Montana is a very potent rifle, of that there can be no doubt. Recoil is manageable.

As you've noted, headstamped 7 WSM brass is rare and expensive. You'd need around 200-250 cases to get through a barrel. I think you could finangle that on Gunbroker for ~ $500-600.

Here's a couple other comparable options that at least have brass available. First would be 7 SAUM. Nosler/Norma are making it. Second would be 6.5 SAUM. Either neck down 7 SAUM, or else buy headstamped brass from GAP..... GAP has adopted the cartridge and is calling it 6.5 GAP 4s. Nosler brass won't be any cheaper than 7 WSM off Gunbroker, just easier and less drama. GAP brass is Hornady and is $165/100.

For what it's worth, my 7 WSM Montana has ~ 1000 rounds through the barrel, and so is well into middle age... which has me plotting the next move for it. IF WINCHESTER MAKES MORE 7 WSM, I'll probably do that again... I have the reamer. However, I think the highest and best use of a WSM Montana might be the 6.5 GAP... it'll match the drift of the 7 WSM, at significantly less recoil, and what won't it kill effectively that a 7 WSM will? That's my current thinking. I'm about to finish a 6.5 GAP build on a Rem 700.... so I'll have that reamer too......

On the brass front. My buddy just bought Winchester 270 WSM brass from normal internet channels at a normal price for WW brass. It's POSSIBLE Winchester/OLIN are running the WSM's again, which would mean sub-$50/bag WSM brass again..... That. Would. Be. Awesome.