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Well I am taking the plunge and going after elk in two years. The plan is to hunt Montana for Elk and Mule deer. I plan to use my 30-06, I don't see a point in buying a different rifle, all set up it's a touch under 8 pounds. I've killed a bunch of deer loading a gameking 165 at 2800ish. I've considered loading up a 165-180 grain interbond. Is that necessary or is my current loading sufficient. Simple question and complex answer Im sure! And yes Ive been reading up on loads and folks swear by 150 balistic tip to 220 solids.

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If you want a factory load go with Federal Premium 180 grain partition. If you want to hand load use Nolser 180 grain partition.



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If u don't reload check out the Fedral Premium with the 165gr NPT. Zeroed at 200yd outta my T3 superlite they group right at MOA n will handle any size Elk at any sane range...ScottyO.

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Originally Posted by colorado bob


If you want a factory load go with Federal Premium 180 grain partition. If you want to hand load use Nolser 180 grain partition.


Handload some 165 NPT's To match your Game Kings or what Bob said.

I have been using 180 NPT's for a long time [1980+-] in the '06. I also use a .338 Win Mag with 225's but it isn't needed.

When I used a .308 I used 150's and 165's cup and cores. They worked fine. Only through some study did I determine that the elk that had died from them were victims of miraculous kills.

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A 180 NPT from an 06 has likely killed a gazillion elk over the years for good reason - it plain works. I use a 30-06 for elk and load enough H4350/Re16/Re17/Hunter under a 180 Partition to get 2800 in a 24" barrel. Other powders will work but normally one of those powders will give 1-1.25 MOA if the gun/shooter is capable of such.

I've hunted with guys that have successfully used Corelokts, Hornady, Accubonds, TSX/TTSX in 165 to 200 grains in the 06. If you like 180 Interbonds use them - I never have but its a bonded bullet. I tend to start with Nosler products and only change if they don't shoot less than 1.25 MOA.

Like any other animal, elk tend to die rather expeditiously if a suitable bullet is placed through the lungs. The 'issue' is the travel path - elk are big animals and may require 2 feet of penetration for severe quartering shots. Elk bones are also bigger than deer so frangible bullets aren't the best answer when bones get involved. Dead broadside shots can be done with about any bullet shot in the 06. Plan for a bit of penetration and realize you'll likely get a broadside or similar shot where you only need to get inside the rib cage. The 180 Partition is ideal for about any elk shot situation you'll encounter with an 06.

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I'm currently loading the 165 Horny Interbond and Barnes TSX.

The Interbond at a bit over 2800fps does just fine on elk.

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If I ever own a 30-06, it will shoot 180 Partitions.

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So far a general consensus is 180 NPs or 165 NPs. I've never shot a Nosler bullet, no need to on eastern whitetails. I've heard that NPs can be difficult to find an accurate load. That being said I will be happy with anything in the 1" region, current load is half that. The reason I suggested Hornadys is my past experiences have been great shooting sst bullets in my 7mm RM.

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I imagine the OP is capable of worrying about boots AND bullets?

I vote 200gr partitions. 180's are great also


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Nosler 200 gr Partition with H4831


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My first choice for taking elk with the 30-06 is the 180 NP. My second choice is the 180 NAB.


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I bought boots this summer, I'm currently breaking them in. This also give me a finess goal. I hunted goats in Hawaii on the volcano. We went from sea level to parking the truck at 6500', then hiked up to 9000 feet for the day. I learned what kind of man I wasn't that day. I think that gave me an idea of what kind of shape I need to be in and how valuable boots are.

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Originally Posted by Bisley
So far a general consensus is 180 NPs or 165 NPs. I've never shot a Nosler bullet, no need to on eastern whitetails. I've heard that NPs can be difficult to find an accurate load. That being said I will be happy with anything in the 1" region, current load is half that. The reason I suggested Hornadys is my past experiences have been great shooting sst bullets in my 7mm RM.


I am possibly the odd one out, but I've had good luck with Partitions and accuracy. Accubonds, on the other hand, have been a complete PIA for me. On average, the ABs are the worst shooting bullets in three different rifles.

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I have harvested 8, guided guys to 40 elk. the 165 and 180 interbonds are fine.

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My hunting partner is fond of the 180 gr. Hornedy Interlock in his 30-06. Pushes it to about 2850 FPS from a 24" barrel using H4350. My custom 30-06 will not shoot180 gr. bullets due to a slower twist barrel but is deadly accurate with 165 gr. Accubonds. I'm running about 2800 FPS using W760 with groups in the .70's. I've killed one elk with that load. Didn't have time to try anything else before it was time to go hunt so went with that load.
I can get 2800 FPS with the 180 gr. Hornady's from a Remington M700 Classic 22" with H4350. I would have used it on this year's hunt but my wife had a stroke and I had to cancel the hunt. I'm not even sure I'll get to go this year unless I can get one of the kids to take care of her while I'm gone.
Now that I had a starting point for both rifles, I'd like to try switching to the partitions in both weights for each rifle, the 165's for the Mauser and the 180's for the Remington. Just back off a bit and work back up.
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Whatever you do don't use 165 NP around 2900 fps, they bounce off. Just kidding but anything from 150NP to 200NP will kill elk from your .06. I couldn't get 180's to shoot well so that is why I used the 165's.

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Originally Posted by PJGunner
My hunting partner is fond of the 180 gr. Hornedy Interlock in his 30-06. Pushes it to about 2850 FPS from a 24" barrel using H4350. My custom 30-06 will not shoot180 gr. bullets due to a slower twist barrel but is deadly accurate with 165 gr. Accubonds. I'm running about 2800 FPS using W760 with groups in the .70's. I've killed one elk with that load. Didn't have time to try anything else before it was time to go hunt so went with that load.
I can get 2800 FPS with the 180 gr. Hornady's from a Remington M700 Classic 22" with H4350. I would have used it on this year's hunt but my wife had a stroke and I had to cancel the hunt. I'm not even sure I'll get to go this year unless I can get one of the kids to take care of her while I'm gone.
Now that I had a starting point for both rifles, I'd like to try switching to the partitions in both weights for each rifle, the 165's for the Mauser and the 180's for the Remington. Just back off a bit and work back up.
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I shot my bull this year with 180gr BTSP's and H4350. My son shot his with 165gr BTSP's and H4350 also. Both in the freezer. I don't see the need for expensive bonded bullets at 30-06 velocity. FWIW I plan on switching to 165gr SP this year as I feel that is still plenty for an elk bullet and a better deer bullet.


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Any controlled expansion 165/8, 180 that your rifle likes.
Elk are not bullet proof but they won't go down with a bad shot placement.


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I don't hunt elk with an ought six, but if I did,
I would go with a 180 or 200gr Partition or Accubond.


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