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no 30-06? the ones 3 through 8 have the most over lap.
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VaHunter,
In my area I can shoot 500+ yards at groundhogs. There aren't as many groundhogs where I am hunting too. I am not sure if it's the coyotes or some changes in agriculture. What I will probably do is take both out when the weather warms up and see which one I prefer for longer shots.
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The last couple of months I have been downsizing what I have in rifles. I had way too much overlap and frankly maintaining them was becoming a pain. I think I am close to an ideal battery for my type of hunting and shooting. All of the rifles are bolt actions and there are a mix of stainless and blued and sporter and heavy barrel. The manufacturer's are a mix of Anschutz, CZ, and Remington. I thought about listing each, but it may muddy the waters, so I will just list the calibers:
22 LR Weatherby XXII aka Anschutz 64 sporter blued 22 Magnum CZ 455 sporter blued 22 Hornet CZ 527 sporter blued 221 Fireball CZ 527 sporter blued 222 Remington Remington 700 sporter blued 223 Remington Remington 7 sporter stainless 204 Ruger CZ 527 heavy barrel blued 22-250 Remington Remington 700 heavy barrel stainless 243 Winchester Remington 700 sporter stainless 6mm Remington Remington 700 sporter blued 260 Remington Remington 7 sporter stainless
I hunt squirrels, rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. I also plan to punch some paper and make some trips out west for mule deer, elk, and antelope. If it was your rifle battery, what would you change, and why? Would you leave it alone? Add to it?
I keep going back and forth justifying each, but when I look at it from afar, I still see overlap. I need an objective eye from the 'fire. Lose this colour and replace this colour with either a Brno 21 or a Husqvarna 146 in calibre of choice.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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I would narrow it down to 4
.22 .223 .243 just because I like them .260 This pretty well sums up my feelings also. As far as the 260 for elk - a resounding yes, at least Idaho elk don't know it isn't enough cartridge. If anyone asks just tell them you are using a short version of the 6.5x55. drover
223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.
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22 LR Weatherby XXII aka Anschutz 64 sporter blued 22 Magnum CZ 455 sporter blued 22 Hornet CZ 527 sporter blued 221 Fireball CZ 527 sporter blued 222 Remington Remington 700 sporter blued 223 Remington Remington 7 sporter stainless 204 Ruger CZ 527 heavy barrel blued 22-250 Remington Remington 700 heavy barrel stainless 243 Winchester Remington 700 sporter stainless 6mm Remington Remington 700 sporter blued 260 Remington Remington 7 sporter stainless My Take; 22LR... keep a .22LR for sure 22 Magnum 22 Hornet 221 Fireball Choose one of these three. If You keep the Hornet 'K' it 222 Remington 223 Remington 204 Ruger 22-250 Remington Whatever works for You... is it a stainless rifle, heavier barrel, lighter for a walking varminter, an action You prefer? Whatever works for You... But keep one maybe even two if You're not sure or maybe You want to cover a couple of bases, ie. walking varminter and a 22-250 for longer ranges? 243 Winchester 6mm Remington 260 Remington Again, is it stainless, an action, a cartridge preference or nostalgia? Whatever works for You as Your deer rifle... But pick one, they all work for deer. Maybe start by trimming one from each category. Mule Deer, Antelope and Elk... Pick up a .270 Winchester. Recoil shy, avoid the Magnum suggestions. There You're done, Jerry edited to add; Oh and I agree with drover the .260 will work in lieu of the .270 Win.
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Yep, then add a 30-06 and he'd be set...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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roninflag,
I used to have a 30-06. Then I got rid of it because it kicked as much as 7mm Remington Magnum. Then I got a 280 and soon rid myself of the 7 Mag. A 7mm 08 lead to getting rid of the 280. I found out I hate recoil.
I agree my varmint gun battery has the most fat to trim.
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I have an idea. Grow some balls and sell some stuff. But I can guarantee you.....you'll buy more than you sell. I've tried it several times and failed and I'm trying it now. FUTILE!
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I hunt squirrels, rabbits, groundhogs, and deer. I also plan to punch some paper and make some trips out west for mule deer, elk, and antelope. If it was your rifle battery, what would you change, and why? Would you leave it alone? Add to it? I'd keep the 22 LR and the 223. I'd sell the rest and get a 30-06. I know that you had one before, but I think you'd be able to manage the recoil if you do four things: 1. Get one that's a little heavier than the typical Campfire flyweight (say about 8 1/2 pounds scoped and ready to hunt). 2. Put a really good recoil pad on it, like a Pachmayr Decelerator. 3. Shoot ammo with lighter bullet weights, like the 130- and 150-grain Barnes TTSX. 4. Make it a point to shoot this rifle every time you go to the range, as your recoil tolerance can drop off if you don't shoot that often. A 270 with 110-grain TTSX ammo would fill the same niche if a 30-06 is completely out of the question. One reason for thinning the herd is to take the money and spend it on some hunts. I'm going through the same thing. In addition to watching recoil, I also want rifles chambered for ammo I can get in any big-box store, especially if airline travel is involved, as it's just a matter of time until they lose either your rifle or your ammo. That rules out a lot of things, but it rules IN cartridges like the 308, 270, and 30-06. You may not be able to find the exact 308/270/30-06 load you want, but almost any load you do find will clobber the game you're thinking of hunting. Start looking at ammo selection in every single place you visit that sells ammo and you'll see what I mean. Some stuff is a LOT more available than other stuff... I've also learned that from there, you have to adjust how you think about all of this stuff. There's a big difference between hunting trips and range trips--for one thing, there are no do-overs on game. If you're on an expensive hunt, then you want to score if you get the opportunity. You'll have some serious coin if you thin the herd like you're talking about, so I'd invest in Leupold scopes with the CDS system for any centerfire rifles you end up keeping, plus a pair of Leica binoculars and a Leica rangefinder. Then I'd get out into the field and start making sure that I could run the optics in a way that lets me find game, then range it and hit it quickly. Finally, buy yourself the best boots you can find. Hunting trips suck if you cripple yourself with boots that aren't exactly right and you have trouble walking by Day 2. Don't ask me how I know that. Okie John
If Montana had a standing army, a 270 Win with Federal Blue Box 130's would be the standard issue.
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Good God why?
P.S. I only read the title of the thread.
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22LR 223 260
Dropping all those down to just three, crazy talk! This
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22LR 223 260
Dropping all those down to just three, crazy talk! This Call me crazy. Of course, muzzleloaders are a different story....
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22LR 223 260
Dropping all those down to just three, crazy talk! This Call me crazy. Of course, muzzleloaders are a different story.... You're one looney, deranged, crazy mofo. Happy?
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Of course I'm happy.
I'm crazy....
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I'd keep the .22lr, the 221 fireball and the .260. I might consider changing out the 260 for a 7/08 or 270, as has been mentioned over and over again.
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I would add a 270, get rid of the little stuff and buy a Rock River varmint AR. The Rock River AR will shoot 1/2,groups.
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Of course I'm happy.
I'm crazy....
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Keep: 22LR
Keep One of these: 22 Magnum 22 Hornet 221 Fireball 222 Remington 223 Remington 204 Ruger 22-250 Remington
Keep one for deer: 243 Win 260 Rem
Then add one of these: .308 Win 30-06 (shooting 180 Partitions) (I cannot in good conscience recommend a .270)
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I am not sure I could handle the '06 cartridges at this point, but I do like the list.
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Jstuart,
I have no experience with the Brno 21 or Husqvarna 146, are they Mauser copies?
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