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264 Win Mag ballistics.
If it fits in an NATO detachable mag they may have something there that will be interesting when joined with some types of rifles.

If it's only for bolt actions it's going to be a re-invention of the wheel, more or less.

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Isn't that the 6.5 SAUM?


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It's not a 6.5 Saum but very close. It's supposedly built off a RCM case. Like stated pretty much a reinvention of the wheel. Should've gone 7mm.

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2.96 COL. What's it go in. LA? SA? A new Ruger intermediate?


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Originally Posted by 805
It's not a 6.5 Saum but very close. It's supposedly built off a RCM case. Like stated pretty much a reinvention of the wheel. Should've gone 7mm.


From the little bit digging I just did that is what it sounds like. Have to be honest I was hoping for the 6.5 SAUM.


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And the RCM case is just an Imperial Magnum case. None of that stupid belt that is a throw back to double rifles. Should have gotten rid of that across the board years ago.


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never seen barrel life listed before...2200 rounds

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Originally Posted by gene270
never seen barrel life listed before...2200 rounds


I noticed that also. Interesting.


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264 Win Mag ballistics.

Not even close.


I love any 6.5 cartridge but I have to wonder what is the purpose of this one?

To long for a short action and to short to really benefit a long action.

Reminds me of the 6.5x284.



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Originally Posted by 340boy
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never seen barrel life listed before...2200 rounds


I noticed that also. Interesting.


It was a misprint at 200 that some added another 2 in ink or pencil. They did the same on action type. More 6.5 options needed or not.


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100fps faster than I load my 6.5x284s and mine will also fit in a Savage short action magazine box, 3".
I don't expect to get 2200 accurate rounds down my barrels though so I'll watch to see how this one does in the real world.
Maybe it'll be well wrung out by the time I have to decide on a re-barrel... GAP or PRC... Hmmm


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If they support it with factory 143/147 ELD ammo for under $35 a box it stands a chance.

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Case Capacities
6.5 Rem Mag = 69gr
6.5-280AI = 70.5gr
6.5 SAUM = 70-72gr depends on brass used to form
300RCM = 73.5gr (might loose some capacity necking down)
6.5-270WSM = 77.8gr
264 Win Mag = 79.9gr

The reason the 6.5 Gap 4s is built off the SAUM case is because its shorter and will let you load bullets out further and not take up case capacity. With the RCM case at 2.1" your going to have issues unless you built it on an action that can handle 3.0"+ COAL.

I see the 6.5 PRC as an answer to a question no one asked. Even if it has factory ammo it doesn't make a big difference because it wont work on a Rem 700 SA, it wont feed out of most AICS Mags @ 2.88 or @ 2.95 that people use in Comps.

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Originally Posted by shootem
2.96 COL. What's it go in. LA? SA? A new Ruger intermediate?


The MRC short action and mag box are 3.125".

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Originally Posted by shootem
2.96 COL. What's it go in. LA? SA? A new Ruger intermediate?


I believe the Ruger 77 SA was actually a "Short Intermediate" at ~3" mag length.

Googling Hornady 6.5 PRC took me to the Hornady page , which in turn referenced the GA Precision page where I found nada

Originally Posted by Hornady FAQ


Where can I find information on the 6.5 PRC?
The 6.5 PRC is a custom cartridge case sold by GA Precision for reloaders. For more information please contact GA Precision directly at www.gaprecision.net or 816-221-1844. You may also contact Gunwerks by calling 877-393-1639 or visit their website: https://www.gunwerks.com/



Wonder if this is a typo by Hornady, as GAP is selling the 6.5 SAUM brass that Hornady makes up for them.

6.5 RCM is interesting if it fits anything. At 2.1" case length it is hardly the Creedmoors bigger brother though.

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Originally Posted by Armednfree
And the RCM case is just an Imperial Magnum case. None of that stupid belt that is a throw back to double rifles. Should have gotten rid of that across the board years ago.


The Imperial Magnum case was a rebated .404 J, .550" at the base.
Not at all what the RCM is about ie .532" at the base, non-rebated rim

I hope it takes off, Maybe Ruger can fit it into their RPR.

Quote from GA on SnipersHide/FaceBook, to the effect that it was better for "toploaders" - would that be blind-magazine bolt-actions ?

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Yes, that's what a top-loader is.

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Originally Posted by Armednfree
And the RCM case is just an Imperial Magnum case. None of that stupid belt that is a throw back to double rifles. Should have gotten rid of that across the board years ago.


Huh?


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It is built on the RCM case.

The SAUM case is a better mousetrap for short actions as it is a shorter case yet with more capacity and more popularity.

The new Hornady will be a flop, and seems like they simply wanted their "own" cartridge rather than fully supporting the 6.5 SAUM. There was no call anywhere from anyone to build a cartridge on the RCM case. Has anyone even bothered to wildcat such a critter?

Hence, both will probably languish. Foolish move on Hornady's part. They could have factory-ized the 6.5 SAUM to the fullest extent and really had themselves a monopoly.

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