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Putting the doubt before de cart...
Double dang clever.
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The Jews of Exodus wandering in the desert described God who led them as a 'Cloud of Smoke' by day and a 'Pillar of Fire by night'. No doubt to me they reported fact, but there is much more there they did not have the ability to interpret even as they watched. So they were accurate but 'incomplete' in their description. How would one of us interpret the same 'fact' were we to view it with today's understanding of reality? It'll be amazing to find out.
And now for today's pop quiz. What is the name for God the Creator?
Except the part where main stream Bible Scholars no longer accept The Exodus as a historical event, nor Moses as a historical character....
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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This.. God does not need proving.. He is everywhere and in everything! Except Einstein's understanding of a god was akin Spinoza's understanding, not that of a Christian.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Funny thing about computer programs.
Garbage in, garbage out. It seems like you need to get a new computer, then. It sure appears to have a lot of garbage based on what you share as knowledge. Can you mathematically refute the equation? I don't need to. Let's take the hypothesis, and replace the word god with pixies. "Dr Gödel’s model uses mathematical equations that are extremely complicated,the essence is that no greater power than pixies can be conceived, and if pixies are believed as a concept then pixies can exist in reality." As notice the proposition is they can exist. Not that they do exist. I can conceive of a leprechaun, but claiming that because 2+2=4, they are real is absurd. This ought to keep Rich busy for awhile. You would think, but this time Rich has got nothing:
You can use any word you want to describe the Infinite that these equations show to be God. you just can't handle any Truth.
That's all he's got, and he doesn't do a very good Jack Nicholson.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy? There's nothing about knowing Satan is real to make one happy, unless one is you. That's the sort of mindless BS "christians" say without thinking. If you believe god is real you have to already believe satan is real. But none of that has anything to do with the statement you quoted, proving you didn't understand what was said. You not only want to pretend some math tricks "prove" there's a god, but that it's the god you want it to be. The only thing you ever prove is just how ignorant you truly are. Over and over and over and over....................... The fact you don't agree doesn't make me ignorant. You just spout the mindless rhetoric and pretend to be superior like so many others do. You can't disprove anything I say, so you try to insult me personally. But I really don't care what you think so you're wasting your time.
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A.Einstein died in 1955, but in 1954 wrote to Erik Gutkind - in which he dismissed belief in God as superstitious and characterized
the stories in the Bible as childish. One might conclude he was reacting against such primitive superstitions held by many.
"the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable
but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." - A.E.
"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly," - A.E.
""If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world
so far as our science can reveal it." - A.E.
"for me, the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions." - A.E.
"“I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own --
a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body,
although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms".- A.E.
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A.Einstein died in 1955, but in 1954 wrote to Erik Gutkind - in which he dismissed belief in God as superstitious and characterized
the stories in the Bible as childish. One might conclude he was reacting against such primitive superstitions held by many.
"the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable
but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." - A.E.
"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly," - A.E.
""If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world
so far as our science can reveal it." - A.E.
"for me, the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions." - A.E. He'll have all the time in eternity to ponder his own foolishness.
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And how do you know this to be so?...only because you read it somewhere or people verbalised it to you
and then you chose to believe it.
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A person's consciousness proves it.
.. ^^^ And your insurance policy says it pays on acts of God.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway
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The Jews of Exodus wandering in the desert described God who led them as a 'Cloud of Smoke' by day and a 'Pillar of Fire by night'. No doubt to me they reported fact, but there is much more there they did not have the ability to interpret even as they watched. So they were accurate but 'incomplete' in their description. How would one of us interpret the same 'fact' were we to view it with today's understanding of reality? It'll be amazing to find out.
And now for today's pop quiz. What is the name for God the Creator?
Except the part where main stream Bible Scholars no longer accept The Exodus as a historical event, nor Moses as a historical character.... Again you find some whackos who call themselves Bible Scholars who also don't believe in the resurrection of Jesus. They are not Bible Scholars. They are using the Bible to make money by selling their tripe to those who want to believe a lie.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
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And you insurance policy says it pays on acts of God.
LOL.....'AOG' in policies does not refer to metaphysics or the spiritual, or faith, or proof of the existence of any God, or cadavers raising from the dead, or talking donkeys, or virgin Marys.- Its just a convenient commercial business term thats deemed practically required for describing uncontrollable natural physical disasters(or phenomena) for which no party can be blamed. Natural disasters can be explained on why they happen with science. Using an insurance policy is like using a genetically modified banana to 'prove' a God exists.
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He'll have all the time in eternity to ponder his own foolishness.
I can't help but think that A.E would be highly amused by your posthumous malediction for the guy that God revealed Relativity to.
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Sounds like some powerful machines. Lets get them working on the speed of darkness.
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And you insurance policy says it pays on acts of God.
LOL.....'AOG' in policies does not refer to metaphysics or the spiritual, or faith, or proof of the existence of any God, or cadavers raising from the dead, or talking donkeys, or virgin Marys.- Its just a convenient commercial business term thats deemed practically required for describing uncontrollable natural physical disasters(or phenomena) for which no party can be blamed. Natural disasters can be explained on why they happen with science. Using an insurance policy is like using a genetically modified banana to 'prove' a God exists. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.sciencealert.com/images/articles/processed/PhysicsMap_1024.jpg) Can you see me now? I am making waves in the chasm of ignorance. By humbling myself before God, I gain strength. And I have watched Sir Roger Penrose condemn modern physics as fantasy, faith, and fiction, as we have not got anywhere for 100 years since quantum mechanics and general relativity.
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Sounds like some powerful machines. Lets get them working on the speed of darkness. What do you get when photons leave at the speed of light? 
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Can you see me now? I am making waves in the chasm of ignorance. By humbling myself before God, I gain strength. Insurance companies (the example you used) don't delve into such complex what-ifs and unknowns, its straight forward for them- if its deemed AOG that washed ones house away, then a person is out in the cold...a 'god' clause inclusion is simply a way of legally stiffing the client, nothing more, nothing less.
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Your science cannot predict a coin flip.
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Your science cannot predict a coin flip. Neither can your God.
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Your science cannot predict a coin flip. I flip coins purely for fun if I can't decide between Italian or Mexican food, can't loose cause I like both. I prefer to reserve science for more involved subjects.
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Your science cannot predict a coin flip. Neither can your God. With out God there are no laws of physics for a coin to be tossed. This is a concept the evolutionist seem to miss. If the universe is a random process one could not expect a result twice.
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