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[url=http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/756870/proof-of-god-kurt-godel][/url]


Scientists use mathematical calculations to PROVE the existence of God
SCIENTISTS have ‘confirmed’ the existence of God after proving a mathematician’s theory which suggests that there is a higher power.
By Sean Martin
PUBLISHED: 03:00, Sun, Jan 22, 2017 | UPDATED: 09:03, Sun, Jan 22, 2017





Two computer scientists say they proved that there is a holy supreme force after confirming the equations.

In 1978, mathematician Kurt Gödel died and left behind a long and complex theory based on modal logic.

Dr Gödel’s model uses mathematical equations that are extremely complicated, but the essence is that no greater power than God can be conceived, and if he or she is believed as a concept then he or she can exist in reality.


Scientists claim to have proof of God

Mathmatician Kurt Gödel established the equation

Renowned physicist finds PROOF of God

Or as Dr Gödel put it through his equations: “Ax. 1. {P(φ)∧◻∀x[φ(x)→ψ(x)]} →P(ψ)Ax. 2.P(¬φ)↔¬P(φ)Th. 1.P(φ)→◊∃x[φ(x)]Df. 1.G(x)⟺∀φ[P(φ)→φ(x)]Ax. 3.P(G)Th. 2.◊∃xG(x)Df. 2.φ ess x⟺φ(x)∧∀ψ{ψ(x)→◻∀y[φ(y)→ψ(y)]}Ax. 4.P(φ)→◻P(φ)Th. 3.G(x)→G ess xDf. 3.E(x)⟺∀φ[φ ess x→◻∃yφ(y)]Ax. 5.P(E)Th. 4.◻∃xG(x)”.

You get it, right?



But two computer scientists have used computers to run such complicated which they say confirms that the equation does indeed add up.

The point of the researchers’ argument was that they were not directly trying to prove the existence of God, but rather to showcase the power of computers.

Christoph Benzmüller of Berlin's Free University, who ran the calculations along with Bruno Woltzenlogel Paleo of the Technical University in Vienna, told Spiegel Online: "It's totally amazing that from this argument led by Gödel, all this stuff can be proven automatically in a few seconds or even less on a standard notebook.

“I didn’t know it would create such a huge public interest but [Gödel’s ontological proof] was definitely a better example than something inaccessible in mathematics or artificial intelligence…



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My proof was Nov,9, 2016 and again on Jan 20, 2017. I held by breath that morning until it was over, thinking something was going to go wrong!!!!!!!

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You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around.


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Originally Posted by shaman
Here's a little bit of Sunday morning pot stirring for the Campfire.


[url=http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/756870/proof-of-god-kurt-godel][/url]


Scientists use mathematical calculations to PROVE the existence of God
SCIENTISTS have ‘confirmed’ the existence of God after proving a mathematician’s theory which suggests that there is a higher power.
By Sean Martin
PUBLISHED: 03:00, Sun, Jan 22, 2017 | UPDATED: 09:03, Sun, Jan 22, 2017





Two computer scientists say they proved that there is a holy supreme force after confirming the equations.

In 1978, mathematician Kurt Gödel died and left behind a long and complex theory based on modal logic.

Dr Gödel’s model uses mathematical equations that are extremely complicated, but the essence is that no greater power than God can be conceived, and if he or she is believed as a concept then he or she can exist in reality.


Scientists claim to have proof of God

Mathmatician Kurt Gödel established the equation

Renowned physicist finds PROOF of God

Or as Dr Gödel put it through his equations: “Ax. 1. {P(φ)∧◻∀x[φ(x)→ψ(x)]} →P(ψ)Ax. 2.P(¬φ)↔¬P(φ)Th. 1.P(φ)→◊∃x[φ(x)]Df. 1.G(x)⟺∀φ[P(φ)→φ(x)]Ax. 3.P(G)Th. 2.◊∃xG(x)Df. 2.φ ess x⟺φ(x)∧∀ψ{ψ(x)→◻∀y[φ(y)→ψ(y)]}Ax. 4.P(φ)→◻P(φ)Th. 3.G(x)→G ess xDf. 3.E(x)⟺∀φ[φ ess x→◻∃yφ(y)]Ax. 5.P(E)Th. 4.◻∃xG(x)”.

You get it, right?



But two computer scientists have used computers to run such complicated which they say confirms that the equation does indeed add up.

The point of the researchers’ argument was that they were not directly trying to prove the existence of God, but rather to showcase the power of computers.

Christoph Benzmüller of Berlin's Free University, who ran the calculations along with Bruno Woltzenlogel Paleo of the Technical University in Vienna, told Spiegel Online: "It's totally amazing that from this argument led by Gödel, all this stuff can be proven automatically in a few seconds or even less on a standard notebook.

“I didn’t know it would create such a huge public interest but [Gödel’s ontological proof] was definitely a better example than something inaccessible in mathematics or artificial intelligence…




I don't know about proving the existence of God, but it's a pretty good explanation of why mathematicians never get laid.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around.


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A person's consciousness proves it.

Configure a stack of meat any way you want. It won't become self aware by itself.

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So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy?


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So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy?


Trolling again?

What God calls Himself isn't the problem; it's how those that claim to follow Him act. Mind your business, and all will be well.


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Originally Posted by RKO
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around.


+1


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God makes it simple and easy. Man does his best to screw it up.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
A person's consciousness proves it.

Configure a stack of meat any way you want. It won't become self aware by itself.



Thats it in a nutshell.

The "breath of life".

What is it? and how does it animate a collection of tissue and organs snd limbs into consciousness.

If you crack open a body, you cannot locate it.

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Originally Posted by 4ager
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around.


+1


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God makes it simple and easy. Man does his best to screw it up.

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My proof is that Hillary lost.

Can I get an Amen?

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Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
My proof is that Hillary lost.

Can I get an Amen?


i can live with that as proof enough.

without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on.

or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed.


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Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
My proof is that Hillary lost.

Can I get an Amen?


i can live with that as proof enough.

without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on.

or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed.


Cogito ergo sum.


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Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
My proof is that Hillary lost.

Can I get an Amen?


i can live with that as proof enough.

without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on.

or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed.


Cogito ergo sum.


Right over the head of most.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
My proof is that Hillary lost.

Can I get an Amen?


i can live with that as proof enough.

without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on.

or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed.


Cogito ergo sum.


Right over the head of most.


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Originally Posted by Snyper
So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy?


I've always known Allah is real. That's just one name, the others are Lucifer, Satan, The Evil One.


The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
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Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
My proof is that Hillary lost.

Can I get an Amen?


i can live with that as proof enough.

without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on.

or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed.


Cogito ergo sum.

Ipso facto Rene.


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Originally Posted by Armednfree
Originally Posted by Snyper
So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy?


I've always known Allah is real. That's just one name, the others are Lucifer, Satan, The Evil One.


What name shall a Christian invoke as he prays, if the only language he knows is Arabic?


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around.



Well...I just did that, and all I saw was a skiff of snow and a cottontail grazing in my yard.


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