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OK, I can't seem to find the informative thread where folks gave their opinion on the pluses and minuses of how you release a slide to chamber up. I do remember someone saying that a slingshot release caused a misfire. Also some good info in there about "riding" the slide forward.

Can someone tell me where that thread is or repeat what was said about releasing the slide to chamber up? Thanks all.


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I dont know, but do slingshot when I'm running a bunch of mags TRYING to be quick and stay on target.

The only AD I've ever had was with a slide release BOOM on a custom 1911 45 ACP I bought that was later found to be loaded with soft titanium race parts. mad


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If I shoot to slide lock I reload and hit the slide release as I'm pushing the gun back on target. Old habit, but it works for me.

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The "Old School" train of thought was that in "games" it's quicker to use the slide release after ramming home a mag. In the "street" scenario, it was felt the "tacky-psyche" effect of the nervous system in a life-or-death situation, would make fine motor skills difficult. So, it was taught that the support hand should slingshot the slide, but using the majority of the hand and not just the thumb and forefinger. Those of use who played the games and also worked the streets, tended to use the slingshot method exclusively to avoid mental confusion in the event a real life scenario played out.



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Originally Posted by SargeMO
If I shoot to slide lock I reload and hit the slide release as I'm pushing the gun back on target. Old habit, but it works for me.


This is precisely what I do.


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Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
The "Old School" train of thought was that in "games" it's quicker to use the slide release after ramming home a mag. In the "street" scenario, it was felt the "tacky-psyche" effect of the nervous system in a life-or-death situation, would make fine motor skills difficult. So, it was taught that the support hand should slingshot the slide, but using the majority of the hand and not just the thumb and forefinger. Those of use who played the games and also worked the streets, tended to use the slingshot method exclusively to avoid mental confusion in the event a real life scenario played out.



Under the stress of being shot at, I have never lost the fine motor skills that so many talk about. When I read such stuff, the first thing that comes to mind, is people who are poorly trained, and not handling stress well.

If you actually have to think about something as simple as a basic reload, then you have not been training hard enough or frequently enough.

Reloads should be at the level of unconscious competence.

As far as I am concerned "Tachypsychia effect" is an indicator of the poorly trained, or people who are in the wrong line of work.


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I guess I started shooting semi-autos during the old school days, so I always have used the slide release, except with my Glock 30SF. That release is difficult, so I use the slingshot with that one. I don't really think of hitting the release with the thumb as a fine motor skill. The slide release is much quicker, and I do not recall getting either an empty chamber or a jam after using it.


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I can do either with equal facility.


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Slide release for me. I've done it that way for so many years it's fast and smooth. I've tried the slingshot and the herky-jerky gymnastics seemed much slower for me to get my two handed firing grip and get the front sight back on target.


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Originally Posted by Cheyenne
I guess I started shooting semi-autos during the old school days, so I always have used the slide release, except with my Glock 30SF. That release is difficult, so I use the slingshot with that one. I don't really think of hitting the release with the thumb as a fine motor skill. The slide release is much quicker, and I do not recall getting either an empty chamber or a jam after using it.


I have noted the same thing with standard Glock slide releases, and have replaced most with the slightly extended factory version.


Frankly I see it as no big deal to use either method. Just get the gun back in action!


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Originally Posted by Dan_Chamberlain
The "Old School" train of thought was that in "games" it's quicker to use the slide release after ramming home a mag. In the "street" scenario, it was felt the "tacky-psyche" effect of the nervous system in a life-or-death situation, would make fine motor skills difficult. So, it was taught that the support hand should slingshot the slide, but using the majority of the hand and not just the thumb and forefinger. Those of use who played the games and also worked the streets, tended to use the slingshot method exclusively to avoid mental confusion in the event a real life scenario played out.



Under the stress of being shot at, I have never lost the fine motor skills that so many talk about. When I read such stuff, the first thing that comes to mind, is people who are poorly trained, and not handling stress well.

If you actually have to think about something as simple as a basic reload, then you have not been training hard enough or frequently enough.

Reloads should be at the level of unconscious competence.

As far as I am concerned "Tachypsychia effect" is an indicator of the poorly trained, or people who are in the wrong line of work.


It doesn't really matter what you "think." It was a question of what was "trained" in many places. I have the luxury of having been shot at when I was carrying a revolver or an M-16, so I never had to worry about the slide release of a semi-auto pistol.


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I wasn't dogging on you directly Dan, and I sincerely apologize if it came across that way. Just different perspectives.

I hear way too many "experts" (who don't have 1/2 your experience or mine) use "Tachypsychia effect" as an excuse for poor performance.




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I sling shot.

I am nearly 6' 3" but have the hands of somebody who's 5' 9".


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Slide release. Try reloading with one hand.

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Originally Posted by EvilTwin
I can do either with equal facility.


Like Jim I can do it either way but mostly slide release. If I am shooting bare handed and have a FTF I roll the pistol to the right and sling shot to hopefully clear and chamber a viable round.


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Unfortunately, being left handed, the slide release isn't the quickest option.


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It's very easy.


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I would like to preface my response by stating I don't give two flying fugks what method anybody uses. I've seen many shooters utilize both techniques quickly and effectively.

However...

Shooting IS a fine motor skill. You can't eliminate fine motor skill and still shoot effectively. It is unnatural to view a front sight when you're trying to throw a ball. It's not natural to allow something to impact your body without flinching. It's not natural to squeeze a trigger without interrupting your sight picture. I say this a again. Shooting is a fine motor skill.

The notion of using the slingshot has always been a head scratcher for me. What is the intent of the slide release? Decoration? Or to release the slide? If you don't have the dexterity to hit the slide release with your thumb, you don't have the dexterity to thumb your own ass. Meaning, you're an idiot so please remove yourself from the firing line.

Do we "slingshot" the carrying handle on an AR during reloads and speed drills?? No. We hit the fugjking bolt release. What is the difference? Nothing.

And to answer more than honestly, I rarely have to use the slide release because when I re-charge a pistol from slide lock, the slide invariably goes home. The only exception I can think of would be some 1911's, but I consider those to be a modern day POS so never gave it much consideration.



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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Unfortunately, being left handed, the slide release isn't the quickest option.


Yes it is.



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I'm a lefty and always use the slide release.

Even though the Glock 17 slide release is low profile, I've never had an issue in a fair amount of serious training.

To me it's very fast. As my right hand is seating the magazine it is also transitioning into the shooting grip, while I swipe down on the slide release with the side of my trigger finger. It's fast and fluid.

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