You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around.
Well...I just did that, and all I saw was a skiff of snow and a cottontail grazing in my yard.
You're not that myopic.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
Scientists use mathematical calculations to PROVE the existence of God SCIENTISTS have ‘confirmed’ the existence of God after proving a mathematician’s theory which suggests that there is a higher power. By Sean Martin PUBLISHED: 03:00, Sun, Jan 22, 2017 | UPDATED: 09:03, Sun, Jan 22, 2017
Two computer scientists say they proved that there is a holy supreme force after confirming the equations.
In 1978, mathematician Kurt Gödel died and left behind a long and complex theory based on modal logic.
Dr Gödel’s model uses mathematical equations that are extremely complicated, but the essence is that no greater power than God can be conceived, and if he or she is believed as a concept then he or she can exist in reality.
Scientists claim to have proof of God
Mathmatician Kurt Gödel established the equation
Renowned physicist finds PROOF of God
Or as Dr Gödel put it through his equations: “Ax. 1. {P(φ)∧◻∀x[φ(x)→ψ(x)]} →P(ψ)Ax. 2.P(¬φ)↔¬P(φ)Th. 1.P(φ)→◊∃x[φ(x)]Df. 1.G(x)⟺∀φ[P(φ)→φ(x)]Ax. 3.P(G)Th. 2.◊∃xG(x)Df. 2.φ ess x⟺φ(x)∧∀ψ{ψ(x)→◻∀y[φ(y)→ψ(y)]}Ax. 4.P(φ)→◻P(φ)Th. 3.G(x)→G ess xDf. 3.E(x)⟺∀φ[φ ess x→◻∃yφ(y)]Ax. 5.P(E)Th. 4.◻∃xG(x)”.
You get it, right?
But two computer scientists have used computers to run such complicated which they say confirms that the equation does indeed add up.
The point of the researchers’ argument was that they were not directly trying to prove the existence of God, but rather to showcase the power of computers.
Christoph Benzmüller of Berlin's Free University, who ran the calculations along with Bruno Woltzenlogel Paleo of the Technical University in Vienna, told Spiegel Online: "It's totally amazing that from this argument led by Gödel, all this stuff can be proven automatically in a few seconds or even less on a standard notebook.
“I didn’t know it would create such a huge public interest but [Gödel’s ontological proof] was definitely a better example than something inaccessible in mathematics or artificial intelligence…
I don't know about proving the existence of God, but it's a pretty good explanation of why mathematicians AND SHEHAWKS DIENASTY NUTJOBS never get laid.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
You don't need calculation to prove God. Just go outside and look around.
Well...I just did that, and all I saw was a skiff of snow and a cottontail grazing in my yard.
How can you miss seeing what you saw? Water: earth is the only known planet with liquid water and a constant temperature for life to exist. It's exactly the right distance from the sun and with the perfect atmosphere for liquid water and where life can be found.
Rabbit: billions of individual cells working in perfect coordination to be an living animal. Trillions of atoms forming DNA molecules that can control everything in the animal plus reproduce itself time after time (rabbits are very good at that). Millions of those cells are in the form of muscles that can be used by other organisms (us and coyotes) for food.
All this didn't happen by chance.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy?
I've always known Allah is real. That's just one name, the others are Lucifer, Satan, The Evil One.
What name shall a Christian invoke as he prays, if the only language he knows is Arabic?
Good point, yet we only know the islamic god by what they call him in their language. Since that word has transcended language barriers it is easy to reference who exactly you are talking about.
And Allah does not mean God, but almost, it means The god. Just god would be ilah. But Arabic Christians do use the word Allah.
Of course we do not know the name of God and I think we err if we think he needs one. We have always called God by his attributes. The Hebrew did the same.
Name invocations really mean nothing, as if you are casting a spell or praying to an angel or a demon (which you are not to do). The fact is there is a clear difference in the islamic god and the Christian one. They are in many way opposite.Nowhere in the Bible does it say to convert by the sword.
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The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
Of course we do not know the name of God and I think we err if we think he needs one. We have always called God by his attributes. The Hebrew did the same.
Exodus 3:13-14
"Then Moses said to God, 'Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, "The God of your fathers has sent me to you." Now they may say to me, "What is His name?" What shall I say to them?' God said to Moses, 'I AM WHO I AM'; and He said, 'Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, "I AM has sent me to you."'"
John 8:56-59 "'Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.' So the Jews said to Him, 'You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?' Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I AM.' Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple."
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter
Of course we do not know the name of God and I think we err if we think he needs one. We have always called God by his attributes. The Hebrew did the same.
without getting too deeply into Plato and his "Grand Pattern" of design, surely the fact that a human mind can conceive of mathematical symbols, and physics, and then convert that thought into the English language does mean something "Mystical, supernatural, or metaphysical" is going on.
or, as Trump said, The Almighty Creator must be addressed.
Cogito ergo sum.
Ipso facto Rene.
Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
Of course we do not know the name of God and I think we err if we think he needs one. We have always called God by his attributes. The Hebrew did the same.
His name is Andy.
Andy walked with me.... Andy talked with me...
Classic
The deer hunter does not notice the mountains
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve" - Isoroku Yamamoto
There sure are a lot of America haters that want to live here...
It seems like some people want God to 'first' prove Himself to them...so they can 'then' trust Him. God likely wants people to trust Him 'first'...so He can 'then' prove Himself to them.
So now that you know Allah is real, are you all happy?
I've always known Allah is real. That's just one name, the others are Lucifer, Satan, The Evil One.
What name shall a Christian invoke as he prays, if the only language he knows is Arabic?
Good point, yet we only know the islamic god by what they call him in their language. Since that word has transcended language barriers it is easy to reference who exactly you are talking about.
And Allah does not mean God, but almost, it means The god. Just god would be ilah. But Arabic Christians do use the word Allah.
Of course we do not know the name of God and I think we err if we think he needs one. We have always called God by his attributes. The Hebrew did the same.
Name invocations really mean nothing, as if you are casting a spell or praying to an angel or a demon (which you are not to do). The fact is there is a clear difference in the islamic god and the Christian one. They are in many way opposite.Nowhere in the Bible does it say to convert by the sword.
It says they "proved 'god' exists" They didn't say it was the god christians want it to be. That's just an assumption based on prejudice.
Your buddy there claims Allah means the devil. You say it means god
I think it's all just wishful thinking to assume your way is the only way.
Those scientists really haven't proven anything at all.
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
There is a kind Catch-22 involved in that only believers have it confirmed for them -- Romans 8:16: The spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.
