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Thought of changing sights which are black on a Smith 41 Mag, good for targets....and I never liked Red ramp, my eyes may not see it well - I fail the color blind test so perhaps Red looks different to my eyes. The gold bead seems like a good one for field use. Any issues with changes in outdoor lighting affecting POI?

Also, considered a reflex sight like a Fastfire. For same gun and/or 22 Ruger MKII and Browning Buckmark. I have run 2x in the past, but want minimal compact size and weight.

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I hate a gold bead, much prefer white/ivory. YMMV


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I've tried the gold bead with the V rear and did not care for them. YMMV



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I used the bead/vee on a Redhawk several years ago. I didn't see it clear enough, so took it off. You might try just the white outline rear blade with the black front. It works pretty good for me.


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I have zero use for any bead or a v-notch rear sight. The best for me gives a Bomar sight picture, flat face square notch rear with black Patridge, 20 degree serrated or just a serrated ramp depending upon the firearms purpose.


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Another one that been there and done that with the gold bead/V and would not do it again.

I didn't specify what sights I wanted on a custom .41 Gary Reeder I ordered and it came with a Freedom Arms gold bead front and Ruger V notch rear. For me it was very difficult to hold the correct vertical alignment between the front and rear sights. Put a One-Ragged-Hole aperture on the rear and that was better. Eventually changed out to a Freedom Arms Green FO front and Bowen rear replacement sight and it is excellent.

The Ruger Single-Six Hunter also comes with a fine gold bead front and V rear. Moved the One-Ragged-Hole aperture to the rear of that one and it works ok...problem with that setup is no one makes a replacement front blade for the gun... The MKIII Hunters also come with a V notch rear but FO fronts...I just changed the rear to a w/o notch and can align everything fine...

If your S&W 57/.41 has a blade that is pinned to the sight base it can be changed out for a fiber optic front. Mackay Sagebrush has one on a 5" .44 Magnum and it is easy to see...

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Originally Posted by EdM
I have zero use for any bead or a v-notch rear sight. The best for me gives a Bomar sight picture, flat face square notch rear with black Patridge, 20 degree serrated or just a serrated ramp depending upon the firearms purpose.


That. Tough to beat a Partridge front sight.


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Count me among those who just don't like the V notch and bead setup on a handgun.

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I like a gold bead front sight--but not a bead like a shotgun bead, but a flat bead inset into a Patridge blade, coupled with a plain black, wide notch, rear sight.

The shallow "V" sights are a no-go; had them on a Redhawk years ago and they weren't nearly as fast or as accurate as standard sights.

As for reflex sights, I'd stick with the Trijicon RMR's or a Leupold Deltapoint for a slide mounted sight on a centerfire gun. The Burris' may work on a 22lr--emphasis on the "may." I have not been impressed with any of the electronic Burris products.

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If you're having trouble with your standard sight setup, here's some ideas to help out.

Consider changing the color of the red ramp insert. It's an easy job and any gunsmith with even a modicum of talent can do the job in a day. I used to change mine to yellow for many years, and then one day decided I didn't like a colored ramp at all, and started changing to a black insert to match the blade.

Open up the rear sight. Standard sights just leave way too little light coming in on either side of the rear sight. Pretty much every handgun I own gets it's rear sight opened up immediately to allow a generous amount of light in on either side of the front blade. This improves fast sight acquisition yet doesn't seem to harm long range precision to any noticeable degree.

Just some alternatives.

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65BR, I put a Burris Fastfire on my 460 S&W. Still trying to get "really" comfortable with it. My shooting improved considerably, but I'm a little slow getting it into service. memtb


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Thanks guys, IIRC, the one I looked thru years back was on an 8 shot 357 Smith, and looking at it in the gunshop. It seems they are not all that, so thanks for the feedback.

On the Redhawks interchangeable - yes, the blue and green shows well to my eyes, but the yellow as GunGeek suggest was what I once painted on the front of a OMBH 41 shorty, worked well. The rear blade indeed always needs to have generous width to get light on the sides of the front blade to center up.

Good stuff. Will have to check out the RMR and Leu Reflex when I have an opportunity. I think one would be great on a 22, and I would consider on a centerfire.

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I have zero use for any bead or a v-notch rear sight. The best for me gives a Bomar sight picture, flat face square notch rear with black Patridge, 20 degree serrated or just a serrated ramp depending upon the firearms purpose.


That. Tough to beat a Partridge front sight.


Yep, it is the best for sight picture no doubt. My favorite, which many of mine have, is a serrated 20 degree cant. A bit easier on holsters yet giving a near Patridge view.

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Received a revolver several years ago as a gift that has the V notch gold bead front setup. Was not too sure I would like it but decided to give it a chance. It has worked well enough that I have taken antelope, deer, elk, and moose with it. One antelope at what one would consider extended handgun range.
While (like others) I still like the square notch rear patridge front a little better, I hope you won't totally discount the bead/v notch setup. It just might surprise you.

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When I had my Redhawk and hunted with it these were my sights of choice.

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They looked sharper than my fuzzy camera work portrays. smile


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Originally Posted by Oregon45
I like a gold bead front sight--but not a bead like a shotgun bead, but a flat bead inset into a Patridge blade, coupled with a plain black, wide notch, rear sight.



This.

Had the above set up on my 657 mountain gun. Got the tall gold bead front sight from the boys @ Smith & Wesson custom shop. Carried mine in AK, stoked with hot loaded 250 grain hardcast LBT's

Worked great for me then, especially with the light coming from behind me. But I'm 15 years older now & getting into the red dot reflex sights.

Have two currently, the Burris FF 2 and a cheaper brand called Osprey.


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I tried the sights in Muleshoe's photo, when they first became available for the Redhawk. They are very fast up close but I couldn't hold elevation for squat with them past 40 yards.


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Shooting a fairly peppy 44mag, I never found
hold-over much of an issue until beyond 80 or so.


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It wasn't a trajectory issue Muleshoe; simply that my eyeballs refused to get along with them.


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Understood, my peepers tend to drift the other way.
I liked those sights on that gun, not sure if I would on
a Smith though. ?


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