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Mad Dog ill bring back the military to the good old days. Got to get back to "don't ask don't tell" first thing.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
well, the new Sec Air Force might well change things around. Heather Wilson is NOT the same kind of person that Deborah James is.
That said, I'd prefer men to be the heads of the various war fighting services.


I wouldn't want to tangle with Heather. I hope 1/2 of our new AF candidates are as tough as she is!
That 51%/49% thing is definitively in play with this lady! Don't push it!


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The Academy grads I work with are about pushing paper and getting promoted. That's about it

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Too much emphasis on recruiting athletes and looking good in athletics rather than warriors.


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Got to get back to "don't ask don't tell" first thing.


It's sad when we want to go back to a more disciplined "Clinton doctrine" time in military history.


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Its hard for me to imagine... but I guess knowing Obama, its not hard to see....

I feel for our nation and especially these 'people', if this nation ends up in combat against someone else...

not only are these people not going to know how to function, if they are captured by the 'enemy' they are really going to be up SchittCreek without a paddle...


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This has been happening since the lifting of the Combat Exclusion Law(Title Ten) allowing females to serve in combat and combat support roles. Otherwise, they just could not survive in a true military, warrior culture environment. I saw it in the Navy in the worse way. Two of my last tours were in the Training Command (aviation) where I saw it as a student, then as a senior officer and the difference was incredible, all focused on ANYTHING but killing people and breaking things in pursuit of the national interest.


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Originally Posted by IntruderBN
I missed my USNA 25th reunion last year. I'm sort of glad I did, as I've feared for a while the change I'd see if I went back. Maybe by my 30th reunion things will have changed a bit. Luckily, the current Commandant, a Marine, was a classmate of mine and one I would never imagine capable of letting discipline slip away completely.

Mabus' departure was celebrated in this household.


You can forget that notion. After I heard "Mad Dog" testify, it was obvious there is no intention of fixing this..


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I'm not holding my breath. Frankly, I'm surprised we still have separate service academies, the way things are going. There will probably be Joint-Service academy (Annapolis) here before too long, F-35 static displays and all...

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I guess the Air Force is trying to live up to it name these days.


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Kind of scary to read.


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Originally Posted by g5m
Kind of scary to read.
It would be many times more scary had the witch got elected. I'm betting it will change, biggly!


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For what it is worth: I am a small town ED physician. Recently a cadet was in my ED with a relatively minor injury. She was accompanied by two other cadets. This was late on a Saturday night. They were in dress uniform and looked very fit and squared away. It did seem like every other word was "sir." When I asked if she drank alcohol, she replied "Only communion wine, sir." When I told her she didn't have to call me sir, she said "sorry, it is habit sir." Overall my impression was very favorable, especially compared with most of the young people I see on a Saturday night.

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It's always interesting to me to see how dudes seem to think that the spit and polish, dress right dress regimented military of the 70's, 80's, 90's, etc. was built to "win". The military then (and now) are built to look pretty like little army men in a parade and make political officers look and feel good.

The military is not however, built or ran for performance.




Having said that, no the AF academy is not producing "warriors" if the goal is to actually perform and win current wars..... neither are any of the other academies. But then again, they never were.

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
It's always interesting to me to see how dudes seem to think that the spit and polish, dress right dress regimented military of the 70's, 80's, 90's, etc. was built to "win". The military then (and now) are built to look pretty like little army men in a parade and make political officers look and feel good.

The military is not however, built or ran for performance.




Having said that, no the AF academy is not producing "warriors" if the goal is to actually perform and win current wars..... neither are any of the other academies. But then again, they never were.


Dumbest post I've seen for awhile.


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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
It's always interesting to me to see how dudes seem to think that the spit and polish, dress right dress regimented military of the 70's, 80's, 90's, etc. was built to "win". The military then (and now) are built to look pretty like little army men in a parade and make political officers look and feel good.

The military is not however, built or ran for performance.

Having said that, no the AF academy is not producing "warriors" if the goal is to actually perform and win current wars..... neither are any of the other academies. But then again, they never were.


Let me guess. Never in or admin discharge as a malinger? I can be sure you've never seen the elephant.


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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
It's always interesting to me to see how dudes seem to think that the spit and polish, dress right dress regimented military of the 70's, 80's, 90's, etc. was built to "win". The military then (and now) are built to look pretty like little army men in a parade and make political officers look and feel good.

The military is not however, built or ran for performance.

Having said that, no the AF academy is not producing "warriors" if the goal is to actually perform and win current wars..... neither are any of the other academies. But then again, they never were.


Let me guess. Never in or admin discharge as a malinger? I can be sure you've never seen the elephant.



Pretty sure he doesn't even know what that means. Has no clue about the elephant. Maximum stupid post.


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Nope, no clue....



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That picture of course, proves absolutely nothing, but your OP, is still pretty clueless.


A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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