Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Alaska On a Proenneke Binge

but IMHO Babe Alsworth flying him out supplies to supplement fish and game was critical to his lifestyle

the book "More Readings...." I would not bother with.

Alone in the Wilderness

I was referring to his references as to how humans treat game management and hunting, he was more of a preservationist.

First Wilderness by Sam Keith!

The attitudes of hunters and game managers in the 60's was quite a bit different than it is today. Put his view in that context.

I found the book enjoyable as I could place it in historical context.

Tell ya I definitely have renewed interest in learning to make sour dough bread.

The attitudes of hunters and game managers in the 60's was quite a bit different than it is today. Put his view in that context.

I found the book enjoyable as I could place it in historical context.

One thing to remember is that he had no refrigeration of any kind except for the small little hole in the permafrost he used in the summer. A entire animal was just too much meat for him to keep. Unless you know it's going to stay cold enough, everything needs to get canned which is a colossal pain in the ass. He was able to scavenge enough from what was left behind to supplement himself that he didn't do much hunting.

Rost, to be fair, there's still plenty of wanton waste that goes on here. That big set of horns is awfully sudductive to many. I've smelled plenty of boats loaded with spoiled meat that are proudly displaying their trophies. You know that meat isn't going to make it back to their house. I sure wouldn't eat it. Another common occurrence, is the individual that harvests a smaller animal, then two days later, decides to take that bigger one that just stepped out. Since he's already got the meat from the first, he chucks the smaller rack in the brush and takes the bigger set leaving the meat behind. I assume they are betting F&G isn't going to compare the size of the quarters with the size of the antlers. When you live "out" the entire area is sort of like you're house. You only really share it about one month a year. Because of this, you do get a little possessive of it, and when you see it disrespected it ticks you off a little. I'd imagine that's why he's a bit critical of the hunters that come through.

Others may disagree, but I see it as our responsibility as hunters to call others out when they are doing things they shouldn't. In the long run its only going to hurt us if government and public (read liberal) pressure forces further restrictions.

The book of journal entries is an interesting read. I've been through it several times. Their were many assumptions made by Sam Kieth that Dick wasn't happy with. It made for a better story (to some) but it wasn't accurate. We have a family friend that knew Dick quite well and said he was a bit miffed about some of the things Sam wrote. Especially assumptions as to what his thoughts were. That's one reason Mr. Keith only did the one book. Dick wouldnt let him put words in his mouth again.

Just some food for thought. I apologize for being long winded.

...I have not seen wanton waste very often, actually possibly never....

On the video, my wife was very impressed that he could carve a wooden spoon that looked so good!

I think Dick thought of the animals as friends.
He had this saying on his wall.

Is it proper that wilderness
and it's creatures
should suffer, because we came.

I don't know if he penned this or It was just something
he believed in that he read.

Happens all of the time here in Texas with feral pigs. The only consolation is that other animals make quick work of any carcass left behind, and they actually need the meal more than the people pulling the trigger and leaving the meat behind. The worst is hearing "hunters" talk about intentionally gut shooting pigs. That type of thinking is for sociopaths, not hunters. They make me sick.

Also, lots of "hunters" bring home deer meat and never eat it. They end up feeding the freezer burned meat to dogs or just pitching it.

Deer meat is by far my favorite. A good tenderized venison cutlet is far preferable to a beef steak.

Thanks to the OP for posting this topic. I was not familiar with the works, but just ordered a couple. Looking forward to reading them.

But do they suffer or are they better off....

Luckily the folks we choose to hang with are not like that. Unless the pig is absolutely not edible. You don't know that until you shoot it, and we have been able to learn to gauge by smell... We have done our very best to make the stinky ones edible. Have had no luck.

Of course what do you do with varmints? Coons I"ve eaten, not bad at all. Have not had much else, but shoot wolves and waste? Shoot coyotes and waste?

In there somewhere, is a fuzzy line thats hard to see at times.

Heck I wouldn't eat a deer that was unfit either....

Thank you Old Toot, I try to contribute when I can, but I'm generally pretty recluse and don't join in. Typing on this iPad is a little like trying to pick up dimes with boxing gloves on which doesn't help either. 😀

He got me to try making sourdough pancakes. They are pretty good!

even though he was squatting on public land

keep reading, to get to the bear encounter at the cabin..

Well, Butch, this one is a bit dry as it is a lot right out of the journals, but it is a great historical insight to an area I spend some time. So, it's interesting to me at least and tells about a time gone by.



https://www.amazon.com/Alaskas-no-1-guide-journals-1869-1939/dp/0972014403

ETA:

Some amazing ordeals that few if any would endure today.

Andrew was rowed from Kasilof to Kodiak because tey believed a doctor was there to tend to his mangled hand. There was not so they rowed back.

Another time as the 'warden' for the KP, he rowed down to Ninilchik (IIRC) but the surf was too rough to put the boat on the beach. He slept in the boat off shore until the next day.

Have you read Jim Reardon's books on Frank Glaser?

Alaska's Wolf Man is a must read.

My favorite is the guy by himself who has his own plane.

If you like The Last Alaskans, get the book on Heimo Korth who is one of the principals and my personal favorite.

North to Wolf Country by James R Brooks.

I need to go into the basement and pull out the old sourdough and Alaskan cookbooks my mother brought back from AK.

North to Wolf Country by James R Brooks.

Alaska's Wolf Man is a must read.

This one is north of 20 bucks anywhere I look...spose I could check the library.

you will be around $10 on Barnes and Noble

go here,
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/north-to-wolf-country-james-w-brooks/1100003052?ean=9780972494441


but look about an inch below the price of $16.94, it has a place to click for "New and Used from $6.35", the cheapest with shipping should be your huckleberry

It is a great book, one of my "multiple re-reads" on the Alaska shelf

Does anybody use Kindle?

Not interested in using one.

Dropped mine the second they came out with the queers on the beach TV commercial; made them take it back and a full refund on the stupid device and all books we ever purchased on it.

Hey, you better not let Matt drown up there hunting a brownie! Get the sea lion nest cleaned out of the ER and head for Uyak.

Does anybody use Kindle?

I'll check out North to Wolf Country, looks like I may need it soon.

Happens all of the time here in Texas with feral pigs. The only consolation is that other animals make quick work of any carcass left behind, and they actually need the meal more than the people pulling the trigger and leaving the meat behind. The worst is hearing "hunters" talk about intentionally gut shooting pigs. That type of thinking is for sociopaths, not hunters. They make me sick.