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Thinking of picking up a new production M700 Mountain rifle in 25-06 and leaving it that way for awhile til the 25-06 funs wears off, then rebarreling it to 6.5-06.

Once rebarrled, the intent is to run 100 to 125 grain Partitions and BTs, and the 129/130 grain accubonds. (for 140 grain bullets and up I will use my M700 in 280 Remington)

I am thinking a #1 contour, 1:9 twist, 24" barrel will keep the weight down, balance right, while giving some extra tube length for velocity. Which is what this experiment is all about - the most V i can get out of the 6.5-06 in a nicely balanced mountain configuration. Thoughts on the how to set this up right?

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I'd either A) go with a Remington Sporter conter or if that don't float your boat, B) Go for a KS type contour, about .6 at the muzzle.

I'd also round file the 1-9" twist and go straight to a 1-8"


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'd either A) go with a Remington Sporter conter or if that don't float your boat, B) Go for a KS type contour, about .6 at the muzzle.

I'd also round file the 1-9" twist and go straight to a 1-8"


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thanks, I was thinking something along the lines of the Lilja. .542 at the muzzle...

http://riflebarrels.com/wp-content/uploads/remmtn24.pdf

won't the 1:9 get me a little more V while keeping pressures down compared to a 1:8... and if I ain't shooting bullet weights over 130 isn't the 1:9 plenty fast?

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Originally Posted by Dogger
thanks, I was thinking something along the lines of the Lilja. .542 at the muzzle...

http://riflebarrels.com/wp-content/uploads/remmtn24.pdf

won't the 1:9 get me a little more V while keeping pressures down compared to a 1:8... and if I ain't shooting bullet weights over 130 isn't the 1:9 plenty fast?


Not in any measurable amount.

Maybe, but why shut the door on options? Berger likes 8" for their 130 grain bullets.

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C)....if I was wanting to "run 100-125gr partitions" I'd just keep it as a 25/06 assuming it shoots to please as is. They're not as cool to talk about but 25's kill the chit outta chit.



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Oh and forget all that crap about having too much twist espically if it's 1-8 vs 1-9.



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OK, 1:8 it is. Any thoughts on the Lilja remmtn24 contour in a 24" tube?

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Nosler load data between the 6.5-06 and the 25-06 gives the nod to the 6.5 by 150fps, particularly with 100 grain bullets. and this is all about speed in a mountain rifle.

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I built mine with a #2 Douglas at 22" 8 twist. It really likes the 127LRX Barnes. It shoots the 140 AMAX ,129 SST and the 125 Partion all at Moa or under.

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How she looks got rid of the 2.5-8 and put a 6x36 on it.

Killed a Moose and A Wolf this fall with it. But a 25-06 would of done the same thing.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'd either A) go with a Remington Sporter conter or if that don't float your boat, B) Go for a KS type contour, about .6 at the muzzle.

I'd also round file the 1-9" twist and go straight to a 1-8"


+1

I have a Remington sporter 24" 1-8" twist. I have had 9 twist barrels on a 6.5-06 and other 6.5s and would not hamstring myself that way again.

Light bullets shoot very well with no measurable velocity or accuracy loss.

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An old campfire thread I found states that the KS contour is pretty much the Lilja Remmtn24...also the Pacnor #1...

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I built a 6.5-06 Shilen select match barrel 8" twist in 2015 and shot a couple animals with 120 gr Nos Bal tips.

I built a 25-06 Shilen select match barrel 9" twist in 2016 and shot one animal with 115 gr Nos bal tip.

I like the 6.5-06 better.
Getting the 6.5-06 dies built by Forster and Lee is a hassle.
Necking down 30-06 brass to 6.5-06 is a hassle.
But it is worth the trouble to me.


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Are you planning for long range? If not, you'll gain nothing over a 25-06 BTDT. My 24" 6.5-06 shoots 120NBTs at 3150. My last 24" 25-06 shot the 115NBT slightly faster. There was no difference in the field at normal ranges.

Sleek long bullets is a different subject, but from what you're planning on shooting, I don't see a benefit.

Now, the 6.5-06 is definitely cooler laugh


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The 147 ELD looks to be a bullet worth building something for. What velocities can one expect in the 6.5-06 vs the often jerked to 6.5CM?

Curious in the difference in velocity. Short action vs long action wise.




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The 147 ELD and RL-26 in the 6.5-06 should put it in a different class than the short 6.5's.

If I could only find some 147 ELD's.



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I have buddies who shoot 1K distances at Quantico with their 6.5 Creedmoors... My 6.5-06 is intended to be a hunting rifle, but going out with them and seeing what it can do on the 1K range is something I want to include. I will roll with whatever high BC hunting bullet keeps me in the hunt with them. (pun intended)

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I am rethinking the hunting bullet... the 130 Scirocco (BC .571) or 129 accubond LR (BC .561), with a desired velocity around 3150 fps seems to make more sense if I am to distinguish this from a 25-06 or a 270.... best combo of velocity and BC for this cartridge I am thinking.... if i get into the 140 class bullets i will be giving up a couple hundred fps in velocity...

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Litz has tested the 129 lrab at .553 and the 130 swift at .491. He has also tested the 129 interbond at .518. Just FYI.

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