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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Just FYI, I don't know exactly how long the 180 ELD is, not the exact twist requirements to stabilize them, but I do know that at 3500 feet elevation my 9" twist 7-08 and 9.5" twist 7WSM will stabilize the 195 Berger Hybrid, which should be a longer bullet and more difficult to stabilize than the 180 ELD. Obviously my 8" twist 7WSM has no problems with the 195, though my 9.5" twist 7-08 won't stabilize them. They keyhole at 100 meters from that particular barrel. I wonder if the 180 ELD will be enough shorter than the 195 Hybrid to stabilize in that 9.5" twist 7-08...


It seems like manufactures don't publish bullet length with the same discipline with which they publish BCs, so I use an estimator, which came up with a length of 1.620 inches.

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As a reference I entered the values for the 7mm, 175 grain ELD-X and got 1.550 inches and the actual length is 1.567 inches, so the actual length of the 180 grain could be a bit longer; maybe 1.637.

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The 180 ELD's I bought are 1.536"

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I have some inbound to try in my new 7 Sherman Short. Should be able to get em to +/- 2950 based on what I get out of the 180 Bergers. If they group I will stick with them for play and hunting as I have had problems with Bergers both not opening despite running a .04 drill but into each nose and have had a few absolutely grenade with 4+ " exits from my 280 ai and 7rm

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Originally Posted by RDW
The 180 ELD's I bought are 1.536"


Looks like the ELD-X bullets are a bit longer than the ELD Match bullets of the same caliber and weight. At least that's true for 7mm 162 grain with ELD Match being 1.424 inches and ELD-X being 1.478 inches.

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Was shooting the 180 ELD out to 700 today. The bc of .797 is holding up to my software. It wasn't one of my better shooting days, but good to pop some primers in a few rigs. 2970 fps still in my long throated 7mm Remington.

Still messing with the 195 EOL bullets too in my rifle. I liked how they performed on game last year and going back and forth on this falls bullet of choice.

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Was looking at Sierra's web site last night, when someone mentioned a 110 grain 6mm bullet...

also saw that they have a 197 grain 7 mm match bullet coming out or available now...I think I saw it on Midway's web site also...

with a G1 BC of something like 800 plus...


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I just saw that 197 a couple of days myself --crazy what's happened in the past several years with LR bullets .


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All the bullet makers are trying to one up the others......

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Got a thousanty in the Mail today,with a few other things.

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Weather has been tough and parcels sparse,the few days I've been home.

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Figure to only be but a coupla days,before the stuff I'm expectin' arrives.

Always wanted a Winchester 30-'06 and some Nosler 180NPT's(55 of them!). The Redfield scope and STD mounts are soothin'.....................












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Put a 45 port roll on and let 'em RIP! grin

I only ordered 300 of them but they'll get here in a few days. If the Lite likes them, I'll order a bunch more ASAP.... gotta love $15/100....


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Remmage barrel?


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ordered 1000 myself. Hope they didnt use the melting tips on these blems. smile

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Got a thousanty in the Mail today,with a few other things.

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Weather has been tough and parcels sparse,the few days I've been home.

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Figure to only be but a coupla days,before the stuff I'm expectin' arrives.

Always wanted a Winchester 30-'06 and some Nosler 180NPT's(55 of them!). The Redfield scope and STD mounts are soothin'.....................












That barrel nut is slick Larry. I have a McGowen inbound for a RAR and think a nut with the groves for a wrench would fix a bunch of dog knots. A ready to screw on 243AI for 275$ ain't badatall. 7twist 😎

Mallardaditc I want to send you a saum case and have you make me a dumbeee for my smith.

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Originally Posted by 30338
Was shooting the 180 ELD out to 700 today. The bc of .797 is holding up to my software. It wasn't one of my better shooting days, but good to pop some primers in a few rigs. 2970 fps still in my long throated 7mm Remington.

Still messing with the 195 EOL bullets too in my rifle. I liked how they performed on game last year and going back and forth on this falls bullet of choice.


Anyone else aired these out? 180gr at 3000 with .797 is one hell of a payload.

Traded into a rock creek 1-9" already chambered/threaded for 280AI/700..Second time I've owned that barrel and it hasnt been on a receiver yet, so chopping it to 22" and mating it up.

Midway should have the bullets to me by the end of the week, keg of RE26 shortly after.

Should be a good mix.

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Shot them again in a variable wind out to 700 at 8500 feet elevation. They are wind cheating monsters and holding .5-.6 moa off a bipod for me. That in a wind that was variable as heck. Loving them. And the RL26 is still impressing too. You are on a good track.

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Thanks for the report. Now I just need to find both the 180's and some RL26! Haven't seen either up here yet...

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JeffZero,

You'd not know which way port was,unless I felt like telling you...and I do not. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart.

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David',

Yes another from James. It's forming cases in the high .2's and low .3's,depending upon the boolit. ES is now single digits,after the bore seasoned a smidge.

Settled on mainstay Hornie 105 HPBT's,if only because they'll fit nicely in the Caldwell Grendel ammo boxes,while Smoochin' the newest throat. It's a nice little Hammer.

That be HANDY.

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Can't know if they are melting or not...but am HOPING so,if only to keep schit kinda/sorta "fair".(grin)

No thang to kiss Whizzum throats and nestle OEM mag confines,in all (3) of my Montuckys so chambered with the 180's and 2900fps ala '22 is a breeze. Left to right: 162 Melter,162 No-melt and 180 Hope-to-melt. Another 180 seated atta square Kiss for The Retro Fhuqker. MK4 M1 10X and Devil Dog Dots for steering.

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It'd be a nice way to fly in a 700 based 28-06 Aye-Eye.

Speakin' of barrel chops,I was more than happy to be getting rid of the 28" spout on my newest 6BR. Took it to 21" with 105's at 2765fps at that more than halfa fhuqking foot of IMPROVEMENT. Gross velocity swing was 120fps...big fhuqking deal.

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After it's 200yd zero,the 'Horn's again did a veddy veddy nice job of arranging erector travel,as there was 34 Mils available. Always nice to be zero'd on the last revolution,as it saves alotta zero stops,for other platforms.(grin)

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Having 44 Mils of total elevation to work with,do not suck.

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Fredrica,

Must be VERY "exciting" for you,to slip in a McGowen given your pay "grade". Whatsa 243AI look like...I've never even heard of it. Congratulations?!? Laughing!

Very GOOD call,to have someone else seat boolits for you,as they's purty tricky. Just ask JeffZero...because she cain't even get the fhuqking boxes open. Must be a REALLY High Zoot 'Smith,that cain't even cypher a freebore spec numerically. Hint. Laughing!

You two CLUELESS Kchunts make a great pair!

As an aside,the RAR bane isn't either twist or throating,but rather the absolute dogschit handles and dogschit magazines. Hint.

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If only to fuel you STUPID Fhuqks' Imaginations and now you can say you've "seen" a Plug & Play. Look closely. If you get your Google REALLY on,you can say you've "seen" a 147 ELD too. Hint. Laughing!

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As to the ShamWow,I've a "hunch",that I've prolly shot that chambering more than a smidge too. Hint.

Just like anything/everything else,I'd focus killer brass,to house killer boolits and gots me yet another "hunch",that it'd be rather easy to arrange a 284-08 Aye-Eye fed via Lapooey Three-Oh-Not-So-Great Virgin false shoulders,so as to yield AICS binderless 180 ELD Smooches. Hint.

Now you can say you've "seen" one of them too,as you madly consult Google for your version of traction. Laughing!

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Hopefully another 22 Grendel barrel hits the porch this afternoon.

Bless your heart.

Laughing!................















'338,

They do tend to arrive with authority and slip atmospherics well,especially in these arid Kansas high elevation wheat fields.(grin)

A 7 Kreedmire,would connect altta dots,in a handy/dandy Utility Killing Rifle...............














Jordan,

It's been soooooooooo fhuqking long since I've had anything new...I forgot what it's like.

You fhuqkers have all the fun.....................(grin)


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180 Scenar, 180 eld-m, 180 hybrid and a 195 EOL.
I'll measure bearing surface when I get back home, first glance says they are all pretty close.

A guy has a few choices in .284cal..

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