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Guys some of you remember when Mr. Gradous first built this rifle for me, he did a great job putting it together, but the Bartlein barrel just wasn't consistent enough for my liking, and myself personally hate begging a rifle to shoot. This wasn't Rob's fault and I wholeheartedly understood what he meant by telling me "don't look a gift horse in the mouth, being it did shoot 3tenths and it was a lightweight rifle with a small barrel". Well I wasn't satisfied and told him that, being he's who he is he asked " what did I want him to do" Then I said " rebarrel it with a HawkHill 4 groove 10 twist" he obliged and it was the best thing since slice bread! Ok here we go I got the rifle back, of course I was surprised at the expediate manner in which I did, being he be in slow motion while handling all the other business at the shop. I had been pondering on loading the 212 ELD-X in the rifle to kick things off....well I'm glad I started with them. Guys the 212 ELD- X w/RL26 surprised me. Second time out with 75.3 grns the rifle shot in the ZEROs, LOW LOW ZEROs....not gonna post that pic because you guys PROBABLY won't believe me. Now with that being said I started with 73.5 grns of RL26 and worked up to 76grns. Then after those loads were established I started doing 3tenths of a load instead of half. Today which is the fourth time out the rifle confirmed the 75.3 grains by shooting in the ones! Pics are below of the rifle and loads, best loads that were established after 2nd outting! Thanks Robert Gradous/ Gradous rifles on doing another jam up job.....next up 7STW on a Borden Titanium OR another Pierce Ti.... Four shot groups shots are CCIs being I had light primer strikes on first time out so with CCIs I loaded up 4 rounds if indeed the light primer hits surfaced again...they didn't so I just shot the 4th anyway. ![[Linked Image]](http://i66.tinypic.com/315kg47.jpg) Same target as above to verify what target or bullseye that was being shot at. ![[Linked Image]](http://i66.tinypic.com/2llnklt.jpg) CoreLokts 150grn....should've stopped @ 3 shots the group would've been tighter. ![[Linked Image]](http://i67.tinypic.com/30m4gfc.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i65.tinypic.com/2viin15.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i65.tinypic.com/2ilj488.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i63.tinypic.com/2u41to5.jpg)
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Why do I read your posts in a Billy Mays salesperson voice every time?
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Why do I read your posts in a Billy Mays salesperson voice every time?
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I wouldn't be satisfied with it only shooting 3 thenths of a inch either. Good move.
I expect custom rifles made with quality parts to shoot in the low low zeros too.
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Why do I read your posts in a Billy Mays salesperson voice every time?
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I wouldn't be satisfied with it only shooting 3 thenths of a inch either. Good move.
I expect custom rifles made with quality parts to shoot in the low low zeros too. .....atLEAST a 1/4" but would settle for .3s consistently, don't like to beg it to shoot better though Kaleb.
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Were you dissatisfied with a 300 Win that shoots into .3's?
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so let me get this straight you had a 300 win mag that shot in the 3's?!?!? with a lightweight barrel no less? based on the pictures you posted except for the one group it looks to me like the old barrel shot better. I think expecting a 300 mag to shoot at or below .5 moa is a tall order at best. .5 moa is really all the accuracy anyone can use anyway. The rest is just being anal.
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Wonder what the gunsmith's story on this is....
I bet it's different...
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Were you dissatisfied with a 300 Win that shoots into .3's? The best it would do was .3s and if I went back out to shoot that same load it throw one erratically....found out the barrel wasn't lapped properly due to copper fouling about 8" before muzzle. It's lapped properly now being Robert redone it! so let me get this straight you had a 300 win mag that shot in the 3's?!?!? with a lightweight barrel no less? based on the pictures you posted except for the one group it looks to me like the old barrel shot better. I think expecting a 300 mag to shoot at or below .5 moa is a tall order at best. .5 moa is really all the accuracy anyone can use anyway. The rest is just being anal. No sir the older didn't being the 75.3grns shoot consistently in current barrel. When I settled with the load that was established with Bartlein it wouldNOT should THAT particular load consistent. Didn't show the other pics of the previous loading with this barrel @ 75.3grns that were actually better. To say the least you are correct on expecting .5moa being a tall order I just EXPECT Gradous rifles to do better.......and was being anal. 
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I someday hope to shoot well enough that a Bartlein barrel isn't consistent enough for me.
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I find it hard to believe that GRADOUS built this rifle.
He has already been crucified by the members of the fire.
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I someday hope to shoot well enough that a Bartlein barrel isn't consistent enough for me. 4 groove HawkHill and/or Krieger for me if I can help it.
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I find it hard to believe that GRADOUS built this rifle.
He has already been crucified by the members of the fire. KMSL.......as long as I live and he's able he'll be building me some more, trust me when I say I'm not done. That ole farm hand builds one heckuva rifle!
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Um.. Do you really believe you can resolve .3 inches with your cross hair at 100 yards...
Sorry dude, too much BS in what you are saying, especially when the rifle might do well at 100 and loose it's [bleep] out at 300...
I've seen weirder stuff happen, and now that I read a post where .3" is too big of a group, well I've seen all the B.S. now...
Good group either way- - Can you shoot that good in the woods or only on the bench ?
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Um.. Do you really believe you can resolve .3 inches with your cross hair at 100 yards...
Sorry dude, too much BS in what you are saying, especially when the rifle might do well at 100 and loose it's [bleep] out at 300...
I've seen weirder stuff happen, and now that I read a post where .3" is too big of a group, well I've seen all the B.S. now...
Good group either way- - Can you shoot that good in the woods or only on the bench ?
LMAO........ok Spot, no need to BS anyone here guy. You're exactly right per doing well @ 100 and be crap out @ 300 though! Didn't say .3 was too big of a group, you did. .3 is a LASER for this type of setup!!!!!!
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[quote=Popapi]being it did shoot 3tenths and it was a lightweight rifle with a small barrel". Well I wasn't satisfied and told him
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[quote=Popapi]being it did shoot 3tenths and it was a lightweight rifle with a small barrel". Well I wasn't satisfied and told him .....wasn't satisfied being it wasn't consistent with that load that shot .3 it would shoot a flyer OR two. NOW we TIGHT with the established load which is above an the 230OTMs are whats tor dinner next! Stay tuned!
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FOAD you Obama loving POS. I see you haven't forgotten either.
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How's it going gentleman, as I stated above per the 230 OTMs and testing. I went out today with the 230 OTM and the 215 TargetHYBRID! Started at 73grns of RL26 and worked up to 75.5 W/230 @ half grn increments. It shot WELL! Loaded up six rounds of 215s with the same powder charge of the 212 ELD-X which shot great above with 75.3grns of RL26, also loaded 75.6 which is the last 3 shots top left. These were loaded at same setting as the 230 OTM per the die setting. Looking at the top 2 targets......right is 75.3 and left is 75.6. This was my first time out with 230s or 215s......will be verifying these and then will tune in .3 powder charge increments if need be. Last but not least I put a Calvin Timney in just to try out, being I've never had one....well needless to say it's staying in! OMGeee this is a heckuva trigger! ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/0MkLyrI.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/IchISut.jpg)
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What does a Gradous rifle or this tread has to do with who I voted for? KMSL!
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Is that barrel finish FLEX-SEAL?!?!?
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I'd rebarrel it again....
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I'd rebarrel it again.... AGREED!!
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Are you cooling your rifle with a fan? Tag
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Is that barrel finish FLEX-SEAL?!?!?
Tanner How'd you know!!!!!!!!!!!!! KMSL!!!!!!!!!! I'd rebarrel it again.... I think you're right sending it back to Gradous on tomorrow . Are you cooling your rifle with a fan? #decoration 
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Is that barrel finish FLEX-SEAL?!?!?
Tanner no but the stock is. If you need a muzzle break your shooting too much gun or are a puzzy or both. That break looks like it's odd a panzer Faust
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Is that barrel finish FLEX-SEAL?!?!?
Tanner no but the stock is. If you need a muzzle break your shooting too much gun or are a puzzy or both. That break looks like it's odd a panzer Faust LMAO! REALLY!
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Anybody have a link to PartONE?
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That has NOTHING to do with me, Robs have always treated me well and have always done above and beyond on all my custom gun care needs.....as a matter of fact getting parts in order to do a 7STW build RIGHT now for him to build, just don't know if it'll be a Titanium Pierce or Borden......we'll just have to see!
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What does a Gradous rifle or this tread has to do with who I voted for? KMSL! Well some of us hate idiots. And that makes you an idiot.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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What does a Gradous rifle or this tread has to do with who I voted for? KMSL! Well some of us hate idiots. And that makes you an idiot. KMSL! Do you REALLY think I care about who hates who? OAN it takes a idiot to know one. #smh #imbecile
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Your quite the hash tagger........ .....it goes for you too as well!
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That's a nice rifle and shoots great!! Just curious the Muzzlebrake looks like it's not tapered or blended in. Is it just the angle of the pic?
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That's a nice rifle and shoots great!! Just curious the Muzzlebrake looks like it's not tapered or blended in. Is it just the angle of the pic? The APA MicroBastard has a larger profile on the front end. Brake has been tapered down I want to say 15 degrees to match contour as best as possible towards rear/muzzle of barrel! Not going to be seamless like a VIAS etc. Thanks guy! I appreciate it! ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/21KoQAm.jpg)
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Gotcha! Couldn't tell what brake it was. How do you like the microbastard?
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That's a nice rifle and shoots great!! Just curious the Muzzlebrake looks like it's not tapered or blended in. Is it just the angle of the pic? panzer Faust brake.
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Gotcha! Couldn't tell what brake it was. How do you like the microbastard? The little brake works really well on a rifle that I'm blessed to have! Being my 14 year old loves to shoot I wanted a brake that would be totally efficient against heavy loads that won't beat him up so bad, to say the least me either LOL!!!!!!! Thanks again sir!
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That was a compliment ........ Thank you kindly sir......my apologies and please forgive me.
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