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Originally Posted by fredIII


Sorry pooba it yanks my chain when guys run there mouth about stuff the ain't seen.



Wondered about that...Ive killed 90 pound does and 250 pound bucks with the same little .22 cal bullets. They all died, but I never asked them if they were from the south or the north...


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I'm sorry that Phil, who asked a question that was important to him, has to sit here and listen to the girls get their panties in a wad - or is it D size contest?

IMO Phil, either bullet will do just fine. I'd select the one that shoots the best in your rifle. Nosler and Sierra manuals list most accurate powders and loads - that's where I'd start. Personally, I'd also consider the Lapua 150 Scenar L. It should shoot very well also.

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Originally Posted by fredIII
Ok I'm wrong the deer in the south are just as big as the deer in the north and use what ever [bleep] bullet you want.

This place is full of great advice.

I would use the 160 but I'm sure a 120 bt would be fine. Or what ever else punches the vitals.



Never said the deer were as big in the south as the north on average but if you think the biggest they get is 180# then you have no idea what you're talking about. Our bigfoots are smaller than yours too.

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I've gotten a big kick out of this thread. For the record's sake, I have killed numerous whitetail bucks in the TX Panhandle that field dress near 200lbs, but most of the mature bucks will more likely be around 170lbs. Our mule deer on the other hand, a big mature buck will field dress 275lbs easily. We have weighed many on cotton scales at 325lbs or slightly more (live weight).

We have no problem killing them with 140 -160 accubonds and/or partitions, or 150 BT's.


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Originally Posted by fredIII
Originally Posted by GregW
So a bullet recommendation changes based on if the whitetail is southern or northern? Thanks for the laugh....

I'd shoot whatever is more accurate at those short ranges...

The deer won't give a rip I promise...

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YA a northern deer can weigh 300+ #. A southern deer will never weigh that 180 l# at most.
So bullet weigh would make a difference. Not to mention the BC on the 160 is way better.


Not sure what you originally said but I don't know you.

I didn't know that there are 24HC fan clubs either....

Your original post today is stupider than is was yesterday.

Keep digging...





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Sorry for the hijack OP.


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Originally Posted by fredIII
Not a big fan of Greg. I edited for the sake of peace.

Sorry pooba it yanks my chain when guys run there mouth about stuff the ain't seen.


Thanks for the laugh again!



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Even more important than the Northern/Southern location of the deer, is it's diet. A measly 140 will have no chance at punching through a corn fed buck, but would probably do just fine on a bean-field deer. Just some more food for thought (no pun intended).

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Originally Posted by fredIII
OP here is a 140 AB on a 225# whitetail at 530yds.

https://youtu.be/vJDoozwogR4

It went 800 yards before bedding.


Same range 180grn 110# deer.



It gets better. A neck shot miss but blame the bullet!

Good on ya getting your kiddo out. It appears he pulled the trigger.

That's not a bullet issue however.

Keep them coming!


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Does someone have a latitudinal chart that I can reference for deer weight so I can work up 6 different loads to have ready dependent on what state I'll be in?



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I don't have a chart but the biggest bodied mule deer I ever killed hog dressed 230pounds on butcher's scales in the barn that night.

I shot him at 180 yards in the Breaks of the Peace River in Northern Alberta. He was quartering on slightly and was hit with a 140 Accubond at 3200 fps from a 7 Rem Mag, shattered the shoulder,and angled to the opposite hindquarter. Got a picture somewhere.

I'd consider a 140 AB from any 7mm a slam dunk on any deer in North America. smile


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Originally Posted by fredIII
Oh and just for your scrap book.

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That is was the president of the NRA. The first year I went to the Olin dinner. but you knew that right. Lol.
Stupid stuff like a northern deer is usually bigger than a southern deer and a hunter in the north might elk hunt or bear when a southern might not.


Freddy, were you in as part of the wait staff?


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Oh and just for your scrap book.

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That is was the president of the NRA. The first year I went to the Olin dinner. but you knew that right. Lol.
Stupid stuff like a northern deer is usually bigger than a southern deer and a hunter in the north might elk hunt or bear when a southern might not.


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WOW, just forget I asked. LOL

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Big northern alberta bucks don't like 80 gr bt' s, that's a fact.....

Specially at 3650..... grin


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Could not agree more. The OP ask which of the two I ask north or south. Then gave a recommendation not related to the north or south question then the fan club jumps right on spurs dug in deep. LOL. A fish with every cast.

Hig might go hunting some day. Greg can help him load his gun. Lol.

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Originally Posted by fredIII
Ignorance is bliss.


....I couldn't agree more....

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fredIII, not sure what your beef is with GregW and that's your business, but just in case you don't know he is a VERY experienced and successful big game hunter.


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Phil 700,

I loaded up some 150 gr. Nosler Accubond LR bullets for my son, who used his 7mm Rem. mag. to take a cow elk last month. Range was a bit over 300 yards, dead elk.

MV is 3200 fps, driven by IMR 4350 powder, accuracy is sub-MOA. Obviously, this bullet is more than anyone needs for whitetails, but it will surely do the job, especially at longer ranges, where the high BC (.611) of this bullet really shines in terms of drop and wind resistance.


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