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Recovered these two out of a large, wounded Aoudad ram yesterday.....

Both shots at 536 via suppressed 6.5 Creedmoor, impact velocity was 2100ish. Right bullet was a quartering shot entering high shoulder and found in the offside ham. Left was a broadside follow up shot entering mid shoulder. Broke shoulder going in... Broke shoulder going out, found under offside hide.

Pretty good performance IMO... But not surprised.




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Nice, thanks for posting those. Need to get a few more boxes of them.

That looks a lot better that a lot of the ELD-X bullets we have seen pictures of. Someone was saying the ELD-M is actually a bit better bullet on game than the ELD-X, maybe it is true. Might have to give them a try in my 260 Rem.

Thanks for the report. I'm using the 162gr 7mm ELD-M in my 7-08 but haven't got to shoot game with it yet.

Agreed.....

I keep hearing the M is the same construction as the AMax, which I've used a lot of, but these make me think they may be a bit tougher. Granted it's just a sample of one.

Have had the 143 Xs in several deer and a couple large hogs but have not caught one yet.

They look great. I'm curious about the 143x's performance on game as well, both short and long range. Have some 143's waiting to be loaded up right now...couldn't find any 147's.

How does the Bc match up with predicted data. Hornady's claim on BC seems high but I could be wrong. I am Looking to use these out of my .260 when I can find some in stock.

Seems spot on from my experience FWIW...

A few others here that are way more experienced/knowledgeable than I am have found the same to hold true.

I've run a couple three hundred out to 1,350 and they line up good out of an 8 twist .260.

Was out today plinking in some crazy (20+)wind. I'm still trying to wrap my head around why I have any other guns in my safe.

That looks like a winner!!! I always believed Boots Obermeyer when he said that 8 twist was a little too much for 140 grain bulllets, he advocates for a 8.25 or 8.5.

Following that logic, the added weight on these 147's should be about perfect in the standard 1 in 8"

With this kind of performance on game, I might have to start messing with these bullets in my 1-8" .264 win mag, I don't know if you could get there in the Win Mag but in the 26 Nosler you might be able to run them over 3000 at the muzzle, my balllistics appp says they should hold 2100 fps and get this kind of performance out to 800 yards...

Boots certainly is one to listen to, but depending on when he said this, it may not apply. Bullets have gotten quite a bit longer due to VLD design and plastic tips. Length, not weight is what determines twist rate needs.

Me too, at 2725 fps. Have killed 9 animals with them. Had exits on all (half fist sized holes in ribs). Only one ran and left a good blood trail. I did not like them in my 7mag, but slowed down in the 7-08 they are excellent.

Mine are right at 2800fps from a 26in barrel. Looking forward to using them next fall on a few deer.

Thanks I also shoot a one in 8 twist .260, but the gun is 30" barreled 16 lb. behemoth so I know why I have others. I will be trying these and Reloder 26 as that seems to be a good velocity getter with heavies in a .260. I am sure they cheat the wind nicely....

What powder are you running?

According to the Berger bullets stability calculator they should be fully stable at 1500 ft altitude out of my 26" 6.5 SAUM at 3000 fps. With a .350 G7 bc and these performance reports it sounds like some serious long range whupazz.

What is the length of the 147? Thanks.

Nice looking bullets.
Congratulations on your hunts and your critters.

I'm using H4350 in my 7-08 and getting great velocity. The ELD-M and the AMAX are definitely not the same bullet. The same amount of H4350 I use with the AMAX gave me 100fps more in the ELD-M. No problems with bolt lift but definitely too much pressure. I'm using a grain less and getting 50fps more than my AMAX load. My OAL is 2.930 and not compressing powder. I easily hit 2800fps in my 26in barrel.

Kodiakisland,

Plastic tips don't matter much in overall length for twist-rate, because they're much lighter than even hollow-points without any lead inside--and usually "pointier" than even essentially closed hollow-points, like those on many match bullets, or Berger Hunting bullets.

The late Don Miller, who devised the twist-rate formula that both the Berger and JBM programs are based on, eventually decided plastic tips don't count at all in overall bullet length when using his formula. But he may have modified that if he'd lived longer.

JBM's twist-rate formula has a factor for plastic tips, while Berger's doesn't. When using the Berger formula I add 1/4 the length of the plastic tip to the jacketed length of a bullet to calculate stability, resulting in pretty close to the JBM results.