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Wong vintage stock with pachmayr recoil pad. Should have been a ventilated Winchester pad. Stock refinished, but very nice figure. The barreled action has to be worth quite a bit since it is a rare rifle. It also has an aluminum floor plate and there is something weird about the bluing near the Winchester trademark stamping. I'd be suspect of a cover-up from where it may have had holes drilled for a G&H side mount.

Thank you guys.

Agreed, the stock though nice, doesn't seem quite "right". I questioned seller about pad, owner claims it original to gun when new. I know Pachmayr made the pads for Winchester, but also thought they were all vented with a white line spacer. Would living in a safe, away from elements since '64, keep stock bright ? Also asked seller about the light area on receiver around stamp, said it was glare, but I don't know.

Thanks again

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donsm70

What do you guys think of my guestimate of the value as a $1,500 shooter?

Or said another way, knowing what we now know, what's the right price?

DF

Someone thought it was worth $2,900.00. It is what it is...

Buyer beware.

Think he's under water on that one.

DF

If I had the funds I'd be all over the one Whitebird (IIRC?) had for sale here.

Greetings,

I'm a bit late to the game, seeking input from you Winchester gurus on this 300 Win selling on GB. The pad appears replaced, S# dates receiver to latter '62, not '63, but maybe not too uncommon. Any thoughts or insight greatly appreciated.
Thank you

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/618284276

The gun is now sold, but this GB seller has sold some bogus rifles in the past. The seller claims she is selling rifles on behalf of an old man who is divesting himself of a large collection. When I pointed out a misleading error in a past Super Grade listing (see below), the seller said she had checked with the old man and was sticking with his description.

The SG listing was a .220 Swift which was presented as an original rifle. The metal was beautiful, with a pristine receiver. The SG stock was inletted for a side-scope mount, but later repaired. You could barely see the repair in the stock but it was clear that this stock was not original to a rifle with an undrilled receiver. This was almost certainly a case of a person putting a stray SG stock on a standard .220 Swift Sporter action and selling it off as a rare SG. This is one of the most common ways to "fake" a valuable rifle. A $400 stock and a $1000 action has suddenly become a $2500 "rare" rifle. I pointed out the problem with the rifle, but she said she had to take the old man's word that it was original, as-is.

At that time (maybe 6 months ago), several other people commented on the seller here. The feedback was mixed, with some saying they had bought great rifles through her and others saying they received clearly "restored" rifles, which were advertised as original. Hard to know, but I put this seller on my list of ones to avoid.

As with everything on GB, it is always buyer beware. And as VarmintGuy says, think long and hard before buying a valuable collector rifle online, where you can't see and handle it in person. In the model 70 world, there are a great many rifles which are not what they are presented to be.

Justin

Nice rifle. The pad is probably replacement from American company CSMC aka Galazan.