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Plus, for the non-handloaders (most people), 7/08 factory ammo is a ripoff. When/if you can find it. Seems that might be a HUGE factor for "no love", among the masses. I agree with all that, except the "ripoff" part. It's priced higher because there's less demand than 243, 270, 308, 30-06. Those four and the 30-30 are the stalwarts of American Hunting. Here in Montana, for every box of 7mm-08 on the shelves, there's five in 308. Still, the 7mm-08 is VERY popular here. It's typically considered a kids and ladies round for all the state's hunting up through elk, though I've always wondered why it's ok for ladies and kids but not grown men? Regardless, I have three 308's, but I do have a 7-08 too. As the late Finn Aagaard said; "The 7mm-08 is also a fine cartridge that possibly makes the optimum use of the .308 case... The more I use the 7mm-08, the better I like it. It is an altogether superb little cartridge, a modern version of the 7x57mm that will do everything the renowned old Mauser ever did - which makes it an ideal choice for a good 90% of all big game hunting." Wrong choice of words there, but I roll my own so price wouldn't matter to me if I had one. For those that own one but don't hand load though, I can see them looking at it as a ripoff.
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why not a .308 win? cheaper does the same job. Me no understand... Cartridges are more alike than they are different...someone said that somewhere. Just not into the minutia these days, I just shoot animals with $1.00 a shot, .308 caliber cup and core loaded cartridges and it dies. I didn't realize you were talking about factory loads. I doubt I've bought more than one or two boxes of factory stuff in 30 years so I don't pay attention. But I get what you're saying in that light.
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Was out with my 7mm-08 700 Mtn Rifle today. Really like 140 NABs loaded over RL19. Not much hunting in NA that this wouldn't work well for.
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7/08? Yawn Give me a 270 or 280. Just another target round designed to knock over silhouette rams. The whole short action business is "who cares"? A great contributor and big game hunter and I disagree on this topic. The 7-08 is an awesome deer AND ELK cartridge.
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PS - the 7-08 with handloaded bullets will take any NA game to 400 yds plus... call or email me if you have any questions.
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I own two 7-08's, a Kimber Montana and a BACO Extreme Weather bought here on the Fire. The Kimber shoots really tight groups with Barnes Vor Tex factory 120 TTSX's, I stoned a Warthog, Impala, both DRT and a Blesbok which I spined and needed a finisher. The Impala was shot at 136 yards and the Barnes broke both shoulders but did not exit and was found under the skin, the Warthog was a complete pass thru at about 70 yards. I haven't shot the EW yet but I just picked up R&B's and a scope and can't wait! I'm a big fan of the 308.
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PS - the 7-08 with handloaded bullets will take any NA game to 400 yds plus... call or email me if you have any questions.
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Re: ammo cost, Hornady has done well to offer it's 6.5 Creedmoor at lower costs than many other rounds. Hopefully the new 6mm Ammo will perhaps be even less expensive given less lead used No doubt with good bullets all are very effective, often more alike than not in field performance on many game animals when using similar bullets and shot placement.
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Me likey some 7mm-08; probably gets more work than the rest of my rifles combined. Very nice, I put off getting six-lug Wby cause I wanted a diff. stock to factory, but IIRC a number of yrs ago McMllan weren't offering such inlet when I enquired. It's a McMillan Sako Classic, standard fill; totally transformed the rifle. 7lbs 1oz w/ the Zeiss Diavari Victory 2.5-10x42 in S&K mounts
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The difference between a 308 and a 7mm-08 is the difference betwixt a 36C and 34D, respectfully. 😂
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d500lnn - " ...difference betwixt a 36C and 34D, " To the prior posters comment, and your post, I like the feel of both (pun intended). The 7mm-08 improves somewhat on the .308W's qualities plus gives you slightly better BC/SD in same weight bullets. Like having your cake and eating it too! Homesteader
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well...those two items are identical, so if you like the feel of one you have felt the other, so to speak. The frame size is slightly larger or smaller, thus while the appearance may look different, the content is not. It is a matter of perceptual rather than practical difference.
Of course, that is what makes for discussions without end...
To put it another way, it's the difference betwixt large and small ring mausers (of like eras and metallurgy for the nitpickers). Or some analogy to S&W revolvers--but ain't a revolver slut, so can't go there...
With today's bullets of like SDs for comparison, the difference betwixt a 7-08 and 308 is completely between your ears.
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Really?
C'mon, I can't believe the 308 guys are gonna let that slide...
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Tom - both rounds are effective, as are the smaller 6 and 6.5 version. That said, to keep like SD/BC as you know, you have to up weight as bore size goes up, and recoil follows.
Nothing wrong with a good 308 and good bullets in the hands of one who shoots it well, which goes w/o saying for any rifle.
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Yeah, I'd add the 6.5 to the above between your ears comment.
Laying trajectory aside for the moment and just dealing with killing critters, the powder capacity of the 08 case can carry a guy right up to the 9.3x62. But that is far less fun and nigh unto heresy for general rifle slutery.
fwiw, trajectory can be effectively be improved with either powder or dial, so here anyway, do tend to burn more glucose on the bullet's effectiveness than caliber employed...:)
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