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Will it ever get any better? ๐
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Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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Not for the vast majority of us!
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths. "there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser" "the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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Will it ever get any better? ๐
Trystan Easily... Just neck it up or down a tad.
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Apparently, based upon hundreds of such assertions throughout this forum, the determining factor is whether an animal "can tell the difference". People who assert this criteria "the dozen deer/pigs/elk I shot, couldn't tell the difference" always baffles me. As though that is somehow determinable.
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You can't go wrong with a 270 or an 06
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It gets better......
When you combine the two you get a 280!
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Or shorten them and get 308 and 7-08.
Most people don't really want the truth.
They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
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I was reminded again today why the 270 is a great cartridge. I found a tang safety Ruger 77 at a bargain a while back and just put a Leupold 3X9X40 Vari X II on it. I had some new brass, so I dropped 60 gr of 4831 in some of them and topped them off with 130 gr Winchester PSP bullets. 5 shots total to get zeroed at 100 yards and then a nice 3 shot 3/4 inch group.
Typical of my experiences with the 270. YMMV.
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I've always liked the 270. I think it's funny that I bought my first one about 35 years ago to have something different from all my 30-30 carrying friends.I was a young rifle loony who had no clue that the 270 was one of the most popular chamberings ever created.
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I like the .270 and 06.. Haven't hunted much with the 06 for the last 40 years or so.. They are great for the average guy who buys wallymart ammo.. They are fun for the serious loader, but I have other calibers I like better for most of my hunting and shooting.. My .270 shoot flat when shooting at coyotes, but it can match my 7mm Wea. But for most hunters/shooters they are all that is needed!!
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I like the .270 and 06.. Haven't hunted much with the 06 for the last 40 years or so.. They are great for the average guy who buys wallymart ammo.. They are fun for the serious loader, but I have other calibers I like better for most of my hunting and shooting.. My .270 shoots flat when shooting at coyotes, but it CANNOT match my 7mm Wea. But for most hunters/shooters they are all that is needed!!
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I like the .270 and 06.. Haven't hunted much with the 06 for the last 40 years or so.. They are great for the average guy who buys wallymart ammo.. They are fun for the serious loader, but I have other calibers I like better for most of my hunting and shooting.. My .270 shoots flat when shooting at coyotes, but it CANNOT match my 7mm Wea. But for most hunters/shooters they are all that is needed!! You can say that again!
Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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I'll say it is the most successful American engineered non-military cartridge developed since 1925.
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Apparently, based upon hundreds of such assertions throughout this forum, the determining factor is whether an animal "can tell the difference". People who assert this criteria "the dozen deer/pigs/elk I shot, couldn't tell the difference" always baffles me. As though that is somehow determinable. They can tell the difference if you're running a premium pill. That's how I roll. DRT.
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Will it ever get any better? ๐
Trystan yea..its called a 6.5x55....
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I liked my .30-06 so much that I bought another one.
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Still two of my favorites, after 4 decades.
I have no use for "magnums". Too much fuss and no gain.
"Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right." Henry Ford
If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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I now have both a 270 and 30-06 in the safe...plan to use the 270 this year. I've sold a number of 30-06 rifles but always come back to them....hard to argue having a rifle that fits my style of hunting perfectly.
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You can't go wrong with a 270 or an 06 I agree!
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They both have remained extremely popular as long as they have for a great number of very good reasons.
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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If you can't get it done with these two you better check yourself before you wreck yourself.
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The 30-06 is certainly the better of the two listed!
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Will it ever get any better? ๐ Trystan It did with the advent of the 280 Remington.
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I will just stick with a 7x57 for my deer - elk sized game.....
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Supplement your .30/06 or 270 Win with a 9.3x62mm or 458 Win Mag. You'll cover all the world's big game.
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I think it was John Wooters that stated there wasn't a nickels worth of difference in a number of medium capacity deer cartridges which I agree with. The 270 and 30-06 are certainly excellent cartridges as is the 7x57. I guess if I was primarily a elk hunter and occasional deer hunter I would lean to the 30-06 while if I was primarily a deer hunter and occasional elk hunter I would probably go for the 270 however as said it is really a toss up but both are excellent cartridges
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Mr. Weatherby made both of them obsolescent.
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Supplement your .30/06 or 270 Win with a 9.3x62mm or 458 Win Mag. You'll cover all the world's big game. How about a .375 H&H?
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Will it ever get any better? ๐ Trystan In reply to your terms: Very good cartridges, but simply credible. "It" will probably get better, but those cartridges probably won't.
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I like to amuse myself by necking them up to 35 caliber and watching my in laws try to chamber them. whelennut
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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Took my first Whitetail with the 30-06.
Took my first Pronghorn with the 270.
Took my first Black Bear with the 30-06.
Took my biggest Elk with the 270.
And so on...
Anymore I prefer the 270. Kicks a little and kills a lot.
โPerfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Awayโ Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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If the 270 isn't the perfect buck deer cartridge I don't know what is....
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Its the perfect prairie grouse cartridge, I'm told! I might have to get one!
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Buy the extra high BC bullets.........
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Buy the extra high BC bullets......... I might have "High BC" tattooed on my dick... which from so many POV's is where the concept belongs.
โPerfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Awayโ Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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.496 BC is the sweet spot....grin
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โPerfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Awayโ Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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That was Poobs, about 10 years ago!
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I've done that with my .270. Those high BC bullets rock. A 30/06 would probably have wasted too much meat.
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yea..its called a 6.5x55....
COUGH !! COUGH !! Before you say anything-- I have a 6.5X55 Jerry
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.496 BC is the sweet spot....grin Didja get blood on your chinks? That will rot the leather.
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They can tell the difference if you're running a premium pill. That's how I roll. DRT AAAAAHHHHHH. Fingernails/chalkboard!!
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.496 BC is the sweet spot....grin Way overpenetrated.
โWhen Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Dutyโ
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
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I had both, and at the same time but never shot anything with the 06 for some reason. I thought the .270 WIn. kicked a bit less and always worked fine for bear and deer. I have found that no how mild I reload the .270 Win. it still knocks the deer down in a hurry. I have loaded them to 30-30 or even milder. However, my average shot after all these years has been about 25 yds.
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Will it ever get any better? ๐
Trystan You'll have to define "better"
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