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#11767746 - 01/25/17 Re: King Of 2 Miles.. [Re: hubel458]
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About the case print revision, and reamer revision..

About the hydraulic forming die setup we made, for 375 HE,

Saves a lot of time and powder, and gets them to chamber size.

The cases we and others necked to 375 had kind of what is called

small love handles or donut, at the shoulder. If we tried holding it

all in at the shoulder, case too thick there when looked at

by sectioning case . Even when we sectioned them to check

after firing, But doing them in the hydraulic die, which is adjustable,

with debth changes in the die, we was able to get shoulder looking right, by stretching

out the donut, and shoulder forward, gained .020" length to shoulder, so

made our test gun chamber longer to match, leaving belt step in same place,

from base to shoulder to match, after firing, were better at the shoulder when sectioned,

IE looked better on the inside of case sides to shoulder corner,

and that is how we got the revision for reamer figured out best.

Then got all reamer prints at Manson, PTG, JGS, to match.

Case forming easier, proportions better, little more volume.

Our hydro die, we made adjustable base, made things lot easier.

In essence an adjustable chamber.. Ed
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#11793156 - 02/02/17 Re: King Of 2 Miles.. [Re: hubel458]
hubel458 Offline
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Got guys getting excited including family,on 416, so making up 416 cases for

it already and doing final 416 HE, reamer print, have an action ready ,

already have a 416 test barrel here to check it in, when they put it in the

action in few days, and will be load and speed testing when cold spell breaks.


Please check this out, a new real long range shoot planned for

this summer in South Texas. Ed



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#11823086 - 02/13/17 Re: King Of 2 Miles.. [Re: hubel458]
hubel458 Offline
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After bunch of 416 HEs done will do some 408 HEs for guys, will have hydro die also to get accurate specs and have them at reamer makers. 416 HE 202 gr. capacity..Getting interesting reaming out CTs..Ed Hubel
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#11832046 - 02/16/17 Re: King Of 2 Miles.. [Re: hubel458]
hubel458 Offline
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Here is picture, couple of our 375HE cases with a little 378 WEA

on the left, our first cases middle has 330gr, other is 400 gr,Ed



Edited by hubel458 (02/17/17)
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#11843862 - 02/21/17 Re: King Of 2 Miles.. [Re: hubel458]
hubel458 Offline
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Loc: Brinton,Mich.
A picture of our 375 HE hydro die.

We use it on lathe bed, we give rod a dozen hits.

Base is adjustable, which great aid in getting best case results. Ed..

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#11874610 - 03/05/17 Re: King Of 2 Miles.. [Re: hubel458]
hubel458 Offline
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Picture of the 416 HE target case, these run through

the hydro-die, test gun done, testing soon, to confirm specs.Ed

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#11892194 - 03/12/17 Re: King Of 2 Miles.. [Re: hubel458]
hubel458 Offline
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Here is the before and after of 375 HE cases
necked, 2 on left, and then formed in hydro die... Ed

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#11915852 - 03/21/17 Re: King Of 2 Miles.. [Re: hubel458]
hubel458 Offline
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Loc: Brinton,Mich.
Here is pic of 416 HSM second from left.
Can be 3.60" to 4.00" long, ac long one pictured.
Holds 280 gr ball powder under bullet. The
3.6" case can hold about 250gr under bullet.. In picture,
1st case is 416 HE, 2nd 416 HSM, 3rd 375 He, 4th 378 WEA.

416 HSM will get 400gr to 4000 without needing BMG action,
470 gr 3700, it may be the ultimate target, singleshot 416..
Case will work in fat bolt actions, with heavy enough barrel
to have good, milder, barrel harmonics and be under 50 lbs. Ed

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