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I've had this Ultramax "remanufactured" ammo for several years. I remember I bought 2 cases and took a few of the last boxes to the farm today to shoot several pistols. I've never had a problem with it until today. I was about halfway through the 2nd box and was shooting my Glock 17 at the time. Felt a burst of gas on my offhand and the mag blew out of the bottom. Scared me to death. I put it away and shot rifles for awhile. I noticed when I was about halfway home that my wedding band was missing. No way it slipped off my finger - I never take it off and it's pretty tight. I need to go back and see if I can find it so I can see what happened to it. Anyway....here's a few pics. The pistol seems to be fine - it was locked up, but I got it apart and the case removed after I got home. ![[Linked Image]](http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/sbark1/22BE16E5-9D61-48F4-8AE0-8F0F828C8777.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/sbark1/DE2F3D88-CC21-42E9-9DFB-B435D318DBC9.jpg)
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When it's remanufactured ammo, it's on the ammo, not the gun.
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Yes. Definitely the ammo. I guess a double charge or something. I had shot almost 2,000 rounds of it without a hitch. I think I have 2-1/2 boxes left now. And I won't be shooting them. LOL. Another pic. ![[Linked Image]](http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/sbark1/0EDB9950-091E-483E-8591-C97DD7B0E66A.jpg)
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You find your wedding band?
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No. I didn't know it was missing until I was 45 minutes out and it was getting dark. I will go back - maybe this weekend. I can't think of anything else I did down there that would have caused me to lose it. I did clean up the workshop and hauled a pickup load of junk and trash out of there. But I think it would have torn my finger off if it got caught on something.
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Crazy. I hope you find it.
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Years back I posted a very similar looking occurrence I had with factory Federal ammo and a 1911, main difference being the top end had to be discarded.
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Glad you are ok, sure you will get the gun in shape. Hope you find that ring. I might contact the ammo co.
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I had a similar experience with an old box of reman ammo and a CZ75. Blew the mag out, split one grip panel and locked up the gun. I thought maybe an incomplete crimp allowed the bullet to get pushed back into the case raising the pressure. No permanent damage to me or the gun thankfully. Glad you were unscathed too.
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Several years back a friend brought by his son's 9mm pistol (maybe a Smith, no sure, doesn't matter anyway) wondered if I could fix it...seems it had a bullet stuck in the barrel. They'd been shooting 9mm remanufactured stuff....almost sure it was the same brand.
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If the bullet pushes back in feeding, pressures can go way up. I bought some Independence ammo in .45 a few years ago and the stuff had significant setback problems. Luckily no damage or problems, just misfeeding.
The bullet must be a tight fit in the case, and must be firmly crimped, for semi-auto pistols.
Once you get the gun fixed, you might go somewhere safe and cycle a few rounds by hand, measuring the OAL of the rounds before & after. If the bullets are setting back, that's a serious problem.
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Contact Ultramax and tell them that they owe you a new Wedding Band.
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I can't imagine the ring being blown off and you still have the ring finger unharmed and still on your hand
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I went back and found my ring. It was unrelated to the ammo blow-up. So now I had 2 mysteries occur in one day. LOL.
Had the Glock with me, but didn't have a chance to shoot it.
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I have had many Glocks, I currently own a G20 and a G22 they are both great pistols. That being said about 4 years ago I had a kaboom in the 20. Shot the mag out, powder burned my hand, destroyed the lower, upper was fine. Sent it off to Glock. I was shooting Kentucky State Police surplus Federal ammo. Glock replaced the lower.
I now run KKM barrels in any Glock I shoot. Still love the gun, but not the incomplete supported chambers on factory barrels.
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i keep looking at that picture, and my thoughts only.
doesn't look like a spec of lubrication, it's pretty dry.
that casing looks like its sticking out quite a ways.
which would make me remove the barrel from the gun, and put one of those rounds in the chamber, and see if it fits properly.
the other is crud buildup, particularly in front of the kind of square back of the barrel. a glock can fire out of battery if the slide doesn't go all the way forward. Translated, i am pretty sensitive to keeping that area pretty clean.
I would want to see a new round stuck just in the barrel, with it removed to see if it's fitting the way it's suppose to.
I managed to blow up a model 23, due to a squibb load. My fault, not the guns. It cracked the barrel, and blowed the mag out, and cracked the slide. Didn't hurt me, other than what i left in my shorts. A new slide and barrel and gun is still working.
I eventually went to KKM barrels on all glocks just they protected that casing a lot better than the factory barrel.
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that casing looks like its sticking out quite a ways.
which would make me remove the barrel from the gun, and put one of those rounds in the chamber, and see if it fits properly.
It's common to see that with case blowouts. It doesn't mean the gun fired "out of battery", it means the pressure was high enough to continue blowing the case web out as the action unlocked. The case may have originally fit the barrel correctly, but won't go back in all the way after blowing out the web. Also, regarding "firing out of battery" - YMMV but I've never encountered a Glock that would fire without the barrel completely locked to the slide, meaning the case has to chamber completely. There is a small amount of fore-aft movement where the slide and barrel remain locked together, and a smaller portion of that where a Glock will fire without being all the way forward, but that's it. If a Glock will fire outside of those conditions, there's something seriously wrong with the gun. Don't believe me though, try it on your own guns.
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i keep looking at that picture, and my thoughts only.
doesn't look like a spec of lubrication, it's pretty dry.
that casing looks like its sticking out quite a ways.
which would make me remove the barrel from the gun, and put one of those rounds in the chamber, and see if it fits properly.
the other is crud buildup, particularly in front of the kind of square back of the barrel. a glock can fire out of battery if the slide doesn't go all the way forward. Translated, i am pretty sensitive to keeping that area pretty clean.
I would want to see a new round stuck just in the barrel, with it removed to see if it's fitting the way it's suppose to.
I managed to blow up a model 23, due to a squibb load. My fault, not the guns. It cracked the barrel, and blowed the mag out, and cracked the slide. Didn't hurt me, other than what i left in my shorts. A new slide and barrel and gun is still working.
I eventually went to KKM barrels on all glocks just they protected that casing a lot better than the factory barrel. It was lubed on the frame rails. Clean as a whistle before I started firing, and I had fired maybe 2 mags full through it. Definitely not a dirty gun. Not sure what you're seeing. But I have fired my Glock 19 VERY dirty and never had a hiccup. They usually go and go. I've never run Glocks wet like my AR15's.
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