24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 10 1 2 3 9 10
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,477
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,477
G1 BC 0.796
G7 0.401

Gonna have to score a few boxes to test in a handful of rifles...

http://www.hornady.com/store/7mm-.284-180-gr-ELD-Match/

GB1

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,351
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,351
So many good bullets out for 7mm right now. Need to find some RL26 to go along with the H1000 and Retumbo. That bullet at 2900-3000 would be interesting.

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,423
F
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
F
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,423
That's getting right up with the 338 Bullets. That 7 mm rm being built can't get here fast enough.

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,351
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,351
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/4...itzer-boat-tail-box-of-100-bulk-packaged

Thinking this should be them. Nice price and had to try a few.

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,112
P
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
P
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 13,112
My Tikka isn't twisted fast enough.





P


Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.

~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Member #547
Join date 3/09/2001
IC B2

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,477
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,477
Just FYI, I don't know exactly how long the 180 ELD is, not the exact twist requirements to stabilize them, but I do know that at 3500 feet elevation my 9" twist 7-08 and 9.5" twist 7WSM will stabilize the 195 Berger Hybrid, which should be a longer bullet and more difficult to stabilize than the 180 ELD. Obviously my 8" twist 7WSM has no problems with the 195, though my 9.5" twist 7-08 won't stabilize them. They keyhole at 100 meters from that particular barrel. I wonder if the 180 ELD will be enough shorter than the 195 Hybrid to stabilize in that 9.5" twist 7-08...

Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 5,937
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 5,937
I’m getting over 2800fps with the 162gr ELD-M in my 26in 7-08. I was getting 2750fps with the 162gr A-Max, so I’m happy. The 180gr does look good for the 280AI though.


Don't just be a survivor, be a competitor.
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,423
F
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
F
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,423
Got a 1-8 twist 7mm RM on the way and a 280 AI with a 9 twist that those 180 will be blessing really soon.

Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 178
G
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
G
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 178
I just bought a box of the 162 grain ELD-X for my 7mm-08. Looking forward to trying them out. Was concerned about velocity with the heavier bullet.


There was no greater freedom than when I would leave Holiday Park Fish Camp heading my airboat west toward the Big Cypress. Fuel for 4 days, a good machete, an ice chest. No phone, no radio. Just God and me and the Everglades.
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,477
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,477
The 7-08 should still be able to push that 180 at ~2600 fps with RL-17. Not too far behind a .30-06 with 180's...

IC B3

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 32,312
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 32,312
G1 of 0.796? Wow. Gonna have to try those in my 7 WSM's..... a quick peek on Ballistic has those 180's spanking the 162 pretty decisively.


The CENTER will hold.

Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two

FÜCK PUTIN!
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,029
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,029
I am a bit skeptical of the claimed BC on that bullet.

What wizardy in bullet design nets such a gain?

Betting it is much closer to a G1 of .700 than .800.



John Burns

I have all the sources.
They can't stop the signal.

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 14,076
H
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
H
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 14,076
I'm betting you are right John. Although a G1 with a bullet like that is absolutely worthless anyways. I'm betting that G1 was measured at 100 yards and its probably accurate at that range.

A G7 of .401 is still a fine number for that projectile.









Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 32,312
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 32,312
I can't help but be skeptical too, but the Amax's and ELD's seem to have accurate BC's... no?

If it really flies with a .796 BC that's a pretty big deal. Wonder how fast I could push 'em in a 24" 7 WSM.... I put 2850 fps in Ballistic just for grins; guessing that's about right.

Talked to a tech at Winchester/Olin today about 7 WSM brass. The call was prompted by WW 270 WSM brass showing up on shelves... I was hoping that meant they were running the WSM's. No love. Aargh.

By the way- good to see you, John!


The CENTER will hold.

Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two

FÜCK PUTIN!
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,477
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,477

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I can't help but be skeptical too, but the Amax's and ELD's seem to have accurate BC's... no?

If it really flies with a .796 BC that's a pretty big deal. Wonder how fast I could push 'em in a 24" 7 WSM.... I put 2850 fps in Ballistic just for grins; guessing that's about right.

Talked to a tech at Winchester/Olin today about 7 WSM brass. The call was prompted by WW 270 WSM brass showing up on shelves... I was hoping that meant they were running the WSM's. No love. Aargh.

By the way- good to see you, John!


You're a f a g g o t.




Dave


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 32,312
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 32,312
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith


Hey Jordan!

Maybe. I'm definitely a reformed redliner these days <g>.... I'm not trying for "max", I'm trying for a load that a) is very accurate, first and foremost and b) won't eat my brass too fast.

With the Berger 195's we talked about a while back the max for my rifles was way less than for yours... like 4-5 grains of 7828 less if memory serves.

Regardless, at a G1 of 0.796, 28xx fps would be fine with me.... at 29xx fps I'd be in the bonus big time. smile

The extra funk in the trunk *might* help them hold together better than the 162's. As you know I've seen a couple asplosions from those on game. Killed the living [bleep] out of the deer, but left me a little skeeved about using them on anything bigger...,

Exciting bullet! As I ponder the future for my (2) 7 WSM's in a brassless world <g>, both of which will need new barrels in the next 500 rounds or so, max, this bullet is definitely a factor to consider.


The CENTER will hold.

Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two

FÜCK PUTIN!
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 590
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 590
I shot some 208 Eld-M's in my 32" target 308 yesterday at 1k yards. At 2675 muzzle velocity I had to use the lowest BC Hornady list on their website for that bullets to get hits. Maybe another 400 fps would get them to their claimed BC? Dunno

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,923
RDW Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,923
It appears to be identical to a stretched Amax, seated in the lands .010" it fits fine in the Montana box but not much room to chase the lands, trying them out in my 7WSM this weekend.

[Linked Image]


Dave

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,923
RDW Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,923
Better than expected, each group has a 6/10 spread in charge weight, last three have faint ejector marks. Also note, I don't pick and choose targets, these are shots 2-12 using the ELD, number one confirmed I was on the bull at 195.

The photo should be larger, 'fire is acting wierd and really slow.

CLICK HERE https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2485/32157178923_245744894c_o.jpg

[Linked Image]

Last edited by RDW; 02/18/17.

Dave

Page 1 of 10 1 2 3 9 10

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

624 members (1234, 19rabbit52, 007FJ, 12344mag, 01Foreman400, 1936M71, 63 invisible), 2,612 guests, and 1,228 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,190,692
Posts18,456,554
Members73,909
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.103s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 0.9007 MB (Peak: 1.0520 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-20 00:59:51 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS