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So many good bullets out for 7mm right now. Need to find some RL26 to go along with the H1000 and Retumbo. That bullet at 2900-3000 would be interesting.
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That's getting right up with the 338 Bullets. That 7 mm rm being built can't get here fast enough.
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Just FYI, I don't know exactly how long the 180 ELD is, not the exact twist requirements to stabilize them, but I do know that at 3500 feet elevation my 9" twist 7-08 and 9.5" twist 7WSM will stabilize the 195 Berger Hybrid, which should be a longer bullet and more difficult to stabilize than the 180 ELD. Obviously my 8" twist 7WSM has no problems with the 195, though my 9.5" twist 7-08 won't stabilize them. They keyhole at 100 meters from that particular barrel. I wonder if the 180 ELD will be enough shorter than the 195 Hybrid to stabilize in that 9.5" twist 7-08...
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I’m getting over 2800fps with the 162gr ELD-M in my 26in 7-08. I was getting 2750fps with the 162gr A-Max, so I’m happy. The 180gr does look good for the 280AI though.
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Got a 1-8 twist 7mm RM on the way and a 280 AI with a 9 twist that those 180 will be blessing really soon.
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I just bought a box of the 162 grain ELD-X for my 7mm-08. Looking forward to trying them out. Was concerned about velocity with the heavier bullet.
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The 7-08 should still be able to push that 180 at ~2600 fps with RL-17. Not too far behind a .30-06 with 180's...
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G1 of 0.796? Wow. Gonna have to try those in my 7 WSM's..... a quick peek on Ballistic has those 180's spanking the 162 pretty decisively.
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I am a bit skeptical of the claimed BC on that bullet.
What wizardy in bullet design nets such a gain?
Betting it is much closer to a G1 of .700 than .800.
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I'm betting you are right John. Although a G1 with a bullet like that is absolutely worthless anyways. I'm betting that G1 was measured at 100 yards and its probably accurate at that range.
A G7 of .401 is still a fine number for that projectile.
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I can't help but be skeptical too, but the Amax's and ELD's seem to have accurate BC's... no?
If it really flies with a .796 BC that's a pretty big deal. Wonder how fast I could push 'em in a 24" 7 WSM.... I put 2850 fps in Ballistic just for grins; guessing that's about right.
Talked to a tech at Winchester/Olin today about 7 WSM brass. The call was prompted by WW 270 WSM brass showing up on shelves... I was hoping that meant they were running the WSM's. No love. Aargh.
By the way- good to see you, John!
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I can't help but be skeptical too, but the Amax's and ELD's seem to have accurate BC's... no?
If it really flies with a .796 BC that's a pretty big deal. Wonder how fast I could push 'em in a 24" 7 WSM.... I put 2850 fps in Ballistic just for grins; guessing that's about right.
Talked to a tech at Winchester/Olin today about 7 WSM brass. The call was prompted by WW 270 WSM brass showing up on shelves... I was hoping that meant they were running the WSM's. No love. Aargh.
By the way- good to see you, John! You're a f a g g o t. Dave
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Hey Jordan! Maybe. I'm definitely a reformed redliner these days <g>.... I'm not trying for "max", I'm trying for a load that a) is very accurate, first and foremost and b) won't eat my brass too fast. With the Berger 195's we talked about a while back the max for my rifles was way less than for yours... like 4-5 grains of 7828 less if memory serves. Regardless, at a G1 of 0.796, 28xx fps would be fine with me.... at 29xx fps I'd be in the bonus big time. The extra funk in the trunk *might* help them hold together better than the 162's. As you know I've seen a couple asplosions from those on game. Killed the living [bleep] out of the deer, but left me a little skeeved about using them on anything bigger..., Exciting bullet! As I ponder the future for my (2) 7 WSM's in a brassless world <g>, both of which will need new barrels in the next 500 rounds or so, max, this bullet is definitely a factor to consider.
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I shot some 208 Eld-M's in my 32" target 308 yesterday at 1k yards. At 2675 muzzle velocity I had to use the lowest BC Hornady list on their website for that bullets to get hits. Maybe another 400 fps would get them to their claimed BC? Dunno
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It appears to be identical to a stretched Amax, seated in the lands .010" it fits fine in the Montana box but not much room to chase the lands, trying them out in my 7WSM this weekend.
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Better than expected, each group has a 6/10 spread in charge weight, last three have faint ejector marks. Also note, I don't pick and choose targets, these are shots 2-12 using the ELD, number one confirmed I was on the bull at 195. The photo should be larger, 'fire is acting wierd and really slow. CLICK HERE https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2485/32157178923_245744894c_o.jpg
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