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Speed and price (but not speed on the actual barrel swap). A smith doesn't need your action, so your action doesn't need shipped both ways. Since a particular action isn't needed, some are pre-cutting popular options and have them on the shelf. You can have a chambered barrel shipped to you today just like a box of bullets. Additionally, most smiths I see charge less for machining a barrel for a nut setup vs a shoudered install.

NSS has piles of popular chamberings on the shelf ready to ship, you get a chambered Creiterion or Shilen for about the price of a high end blank. Greg Young will chamber any of his top shelf in stock barrels for you in your choice of chamber for $180, and do it in 30 days. Just a couple examples, I think the trend is going to continue and is a great option to have for high volume shooters. I'll be screwing my first one on tomorrow...


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I understand. I see it as a shortcut for the most part though. Few top competitors would go that route. I also see it as short term pain for long term gain. I know I can change barrels much faster and even in the field if necessary with a traditional setup.....and my headspace, die settings and brass can't ever be out of whack. To each his own. Not for me.

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Interesting. If it's beyond scope mounts and stock screws I'm not messing with it anymore.

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Originally Posted by Blackbrush
I understand. I see it as a shortcut for the most part though. Few top competitors would go that route. I also see it as short term pain for long term gain. I know I can change barrels much faster and even in the field if necessary with a traditional setup.....and my headspace, die settings and brass can't ever be out of whack. To each his own. Not for me.


I never could stand a Savage due to "the nut". However, after competing with guys running Savages with nuts in F/TR, I noticed they were competitive. I then began to see barrel offerings in calibers that looked interesting where I wanted to experiment without spending $3K on a custom setup. Also, I always hated the thought of shipping my high-end components across the country hoping they would arrive just as I held them. Compound that with the speed in which known 'smiths get your parts back to you assembled, it was a no-brainer.

I built me a .260 on a Savage 12 action with a Criterion barrel. I then bedded the stock in a B&C A2. Is it my favorite rifle? Not a chance. Did it surpass my expectations? You bet it did. I've been able to shoot 1/2 MOA groups at 1,000 yards.

Can spin on barrels using barrel nuts be competitive? This guy thinks so:

http://criterionbarrels.com/honeycutt-sets-national-f-class-record-with-criterion-barrel

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All things being equal, I'd prefer a shouldered install myself. Also, if I were competing in benchrest I wouldn't bother. In the steel/field precision/prs stye shoots I do, the last bit of accuracy potential is rarely realized. If you have a high quality, inexpensive, fast local smith that'd change the equation as well.

We'll see how I feel about the system after a barrel or two, as for now I'm optimistic.


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So when is the shoot?


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Still waiting for this magical 2" groups from 500 yds out of stock rifles.....

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Originally Posted by gonzaga
Still waiting for this magical 2" groups from 500 yds out of stock rifles.....


Probably ran out of ammo trying grin

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Does anyone ever do a custom build on a Tikka? It seems like a guy could get a lot for $2000 build.



I've built quite a few, including my 3 F-TR competition rifles.

I believe I can be credited with the customizing of the action, whereas the front of the receiver if faced off square, and my custom designed recoil lug is installed between the receiver and barrel. whistle

Here's one of them. I've been at it for awhile. wink
http://www.tikkashooters.com/al-qua...e-hammer-august-2013-tikka-of-the-month/




I've also 'built' a few T3's.

I've left the recoil lugs alone, save using a steel one instead of the supplied aluminum.

What is the advantage of the '700' style recoil lug?
My way of thinking is that the '700' style has to have 4 perfectly flat surfaces to mate with, the stock Tikka the action and barrel need to be square.

Not to difficult to get sub 1/2 moa performance out of a stock Tikka action and a good bedding job.

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Originally Posted by Trystan
Ive shot so many sub 2" 500 yd groups with a stock tikka I've lost count. Mount a scope and go hunt




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Holy Chit that is impressive!

Do you teach long range by chance?

I would love to get some pointers.


THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.

The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.

The website is up and running!

www.lostriverammocompany.com

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i can shoot those kind of groups with my 788 remmy in 6mm but i dont know about using a 6x scope. 60 yr old eyes ain't up to that anymore.i shoot a 6x24x40 4200 elite on mine.i'm hanging tight at 1 3/8" at 400yds and have shot under 2" at 500.

70grn varmagedons in a 1/12 twist barrel.i own a few tikka's that shoot really well but they are deer guns and i never shot them that far.

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Next week.......stay tuned!



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Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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Originally Posted by Trystan
Next week.......stay tuned!



Trystan



The suspense is killing me.



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Take a Knee always had a problem writing checks with his mouth that his ass couldn't cash.


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Take a knee?

No way.



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Originally Posted by Trystan
Next week.......stay tuned!



Trystan


LOL, keep practicing....

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Originally Posted by Trystan
Next week.......stay tuned!



Trystan


We are still tuned, and I am ready to learn.


THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.

The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.

The website is up and running!

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Originally Posted by Trystan
Next week.......stay tuned!



Trystan


We are still tuned, and I am ready to learn.



Lots to learn from the OP. Just the other day he was lecturing Bigfin on long range hunting:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...The_Game_of_Inches_...bigge#Post11919724






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Originally Posted by Trystan
Next week.......stay tuned!



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What exactly do you mean by "next week"? grin

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