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Which have you found to have good ES & SD ?
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Per the precision rifle blog...in a medium size case....pretty hard to beat H4350.
And unless you are using a Magneto speed chrono....I am not sure anyones' data over an F1 type chrono is worth a schzitt
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Jesse Jaymes ,
Yeah -Hodgdon powder makes good stuff .
I'm wondering if people have used Vitivouri powder -Norma powder maybe others ? that were consistent across their product line . Read more than once that the new IMR line wasn't as good as Hodgdon .
I worked up a load using Re17 / 162amax in my 280ai rem. 700 shot great when I finished load tuning but when I check it 6 month later -not so much . Same story with imr 7828ssc . Trying to get some expert opinions instead of "buying & trying" more powders .
Anybody use the Vitivouri 5 series of powder ? I know EddyBo liked that powder . Thanks Mike
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What are you trying to do Mike? I`ve used lots of different powders in my various rifles with great success, with a mix of IMR and Hodgdon, no Vitivouri tho. Haven`t found the need. Maybe you should look up "THLR.No" on youtube, long range shooting. He just switched from Vitivouri to Hodgdon powders. I`m assuming you used a different lot of RL-17 when you tried the load 6 months later?
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The new alliant powders are impressive.
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Which have you found to have good ES & SD ? H4350 in medium cases and H1000 in bigger cases seems to be the standard. That mirrors my experience also, they seem to be the most consistent and least fussy of all the powders I've tried. Unfortunately H4350 seems to be unobtainium right now.
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In 2015 -2016 I used IMR-4451 and IMR-4166 for temp stability and anti Copper fouling
In 2011 -2014 I used H4350 and H4895 for temp stability
In 1999 -2010 I used IMR-4895, Re22, and dozens of other powders.
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CGPAUL ,
Trying to get better vertical at long range . Re17 and I-7828ssc aren't working , h-1000 isn't accurate , H-4831sc is only accurate with low to midrange loads .Which is odd in my expierence .
[Quote]""I`m assuming you used a different lot of RL-17 when you tried the load 6 months later?""
No -using same loads from summer in winter -like I said great short range groups bad winter groups vertical as much as a foot -horizontal 3-4" on a very calm day . 730 yards . I checked out THlr and will watch some more -thanks .
I have did some CBS cold barrel shot expierimenting -thus far it ain't pretty , although I don't go deep into the weather etc. etc. just try to keep it somewhat simple myself .
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Yep H-4350 unattainable around here too- but I've never tried it in the 280ai .
I have an OCW test loaded with H-1000 & Berger Hybrid 180's -fingers crossed - I'll let you'all know how it shoots soonish .
I'm going to grab a pound of IMR 7977 and load a second powder combo when I test . Hopefully one of those will do well . The 180gr. Hybrids sure are pretty .
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That's odd. Doing load workup on my 7mm rem mag I switched from RL-26 to H-1000 and halved my groups at long range. The RL-26 gave me better velocity but the accuracy wasn't there. Just goes to show that each rifle is an individual.
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That's odd. Doing load workup on my 7mm rem mag I switched from RL-26 to H-1000 and halved my groups at long range. The RL-26 gave me better velocity but the accuracy wasn't there. Just goes to show that each rifle is an individual. Had the same results with H1000 in my 264 WM. Poor groups. Tried 7828 and RL 26 with the same results. Finally tried RL33 and bingo.
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H4895 in 223 for 600 yard Fclass with 73 Grain ELDM's XBR8208 in 223 with 50gr NBT or 53gr Vmax for coyotes H4831 in 300WM for long range Deer hunting and Fclass Open Varget in 308 for all around blasting H414 in 9 twist.22-250 for 80 Grain Bergers H4350 in 243 for 87 grain Bergers XBR8208 in 12 twist .22-250 for 50gr NBT or 53gr Vmax
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I've been happy with RL-22 in 6.5-284 and H-4831SC in 300 WSM. Old fashioned IMR 4350 works good in 243.
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Which have you found to have good ES & SD ? I don't do it much, but yes, Hodgdon.
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Which have you found to have good ES & SD ? With this question being so vague.....no cartridge or bullet weight it is impossible to give an answer that has any meaning whatsoever, on the other hand if you were to ask what TP is the best for wiping your azz in the morning if diarrhea or constipation it would be Charmin.
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Ramshot Magnum.
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Ramshot Magnum.
Just to be odd man out. Recall an email reply from gent at Ramshot about using their Magnum in a 6.5x55 rifle. He kinda thought I'd be better off using their Hunter powder....that the Magnum was too slow a powder, less velocity from it and etc. Well, he may have been right, but my Magnum 6.5x55 loads are consistently more accurate for me.
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Not odd to me. I love Ramshot Magnum. I try to use it in everything I can.
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I'm using Vihtuovari N560 for my 270wby, 300wsm and the 6,5x55 with consistent and good accuracy. In my rifles the N560 have given better speeds es and accuracy than norma mrp,h1000,4831sc,and also the N160 and the N170.
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I don't have a favorite brand, but the powders I have the best results with are made by Hodgon.
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Ramshot Magnum.
Just to be odd man out. Recall an email reply from gent at Ramshot about using their Magnum in a 6.5x55 rifle. He kinda thought I'd be better off using their Hunter powder....that the Magnum was too slow a powder, less velocity from it and etc. Well, he may have been right, but my Magnum 6.5x55 loads are consistently more accurate for me. For my 7mm WSM and Berg 180s, Hunter need not apply.
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I use Ramshot Magnum for my 264 WM for long range hunting and RL-17 in my 30 inch barreled 30-06 for the 1 mile steel at the Whittington Center in Raton NM.
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I have had pretty good results with Hogdon H4831SC under a 180 gr Berger match hybrid target bullet - I use Norma brass and Fed. 215 mag match primers . This feed a 7mm REM Mag well.
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Really boils down to what my rifle likes...Retumbo in my 7 Wby, and just developed a load in the 250 AI with I4350 and a 117 grn bullet. My load for deer this fall.
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The best for that round and bullet, to get me the most accuracy( not always the best ES/SD) and the most MV at the same time, while being temp stable as can be.
Which means it could be any powder...
N540 was my go to for 223 out to 1000 in the service rifle...accurate and fast...
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Which have you found to have good ES & SD ? Ole mike, The new Reloader 23 powder is supposedly designed specifically to produce good ES & SD numbers. I haven't tried it yet but the burn rate should be about right for the 280 AI pushing a 162 ☺ Alliants new Reloader 26 is designed specifically for velocity, not ES, SD so you might not see the best results If you decide to try it. Trystan
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I've mostly liked h4350, h4831sc, h1000 over the past 10 years. One exception is I have a few guns that really like 7828 and a few that I've even went off the rails and ran a ball powder, superformance, and had amazing results. 15 years ago I was heavy on RL 15,19,22, and 25 but I pretty much went away from all of them except I still love some 15. I'm playing some of the new alliant stuff now and liking it. Ar comp is great and 33 is awesome in a 28 nosler. Ill be trying some 16, 23, and 26 this spring.
I also burn lots of benchmark. It's great in 223, 22-250 with 40's, 243's and 6mm's with 55's, and my guide gun 45/70 loves it under a 350 hornady flat point. My creedmoor, 260, 7-08, and 30-06 couldn't live without h4350, and my 300wsm does amazing things with 4831sc. H1000 for 105's in the 243 and 7mag or 300 win stuff.
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Right now its Reloader 26 for me. 280 AI and 150gn ABLR is the really right stuff
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Varget is pretty flexible and works great in my 223 , 308 , 35 Rem ,and 7mmSaum
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