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Does an out of state sale for a long gun from a non FFL to another non FFL have to go through a FFl Dealer?
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If the gun is shipped, yes. If the transaction is face to face, then it will depend on the state.
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I was under the impression that Federal law required the sale go through an FFL when the buyer and seller are from different states.
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that's my understanding as well too, Kingston
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I was under the impression that Federal law required the sale go through an FFL when the buyer and seller are from different states. Yes
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Does the contiguos state rule apply? As a Louisiana resident I can buy rifles and shotguns(but not hand guns) in Texas, Arkansas, and Mississippi as each of these states has a common border with Louisiana.
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Its all right to be white!!
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I wonder does this also apply when it is a gift within a family even through they are in different states?? Cheers NC
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There are rules particular to estates.
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I wouldn't bother with an ffl if I was FTF in another state and the seller seemed a reasonable guy.
It's a stupid law and I usually don't obey stupid laws when I find them to be onerous and the likely hood of getting in trouble is minute.
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CYA Use a ffl one of the best $25-$30 bucks you'll spend
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If you don't follow the law, which is spelled out in plain english on BATF FAQ'q, and something does go wrong then you will need a really good lawyer which is going to cost you at a minimum $200 per hour. So how rich do you feel?
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Good lawyers around here cost $500/hr.
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I wouldn't bother with an ffl if I was FTF in another state and the seller seemed a reasonable guy.
It's a stupid law and I usually don't obey stupid laws when I find them to be onerous and the likely hood of getting in trouble is minute. Unhuh. 
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It is a stupid law, but not as stupid as going to jail, losing the right to own firearms, etc, etc, to save $30.
I seldom sell guns FTF these days, and always check the buyer's ID, prefer a CCW if possible. When a potential buyer from another state starts quibbling about going through a dealer, a little bell starts to tinkle in my ear. Always thought it was funny that a total stranger woukd ask me to commit an Federal felony to save him a few bucks.
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I wouldn't bother with an ffl if I was FTF in another state and the seller seemed a reasonable guy.
It's a stupid law and I usually don't obey stupid laws when I find them to be onerous and the likely hood of getting in trouble is minute. 25-50 dollar transfer fee to keep everything legal is not going to bother me one iota.
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