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I really like my little 243 Montana but am looking for something that can be left in the pickup 24/7 without ANY worry. Odds of theft are slim but I would be really pissed if some jackass stole the Kimber.


And I want something quieter so a new rifle is needed....


Thinking....

.223

Mid to heavyweight 20" barrel.
(give or take and don't care about twist)

The ability to load from the top down.
(not sure if the Tikka and Ruger American will work?)

Under $500-600.

Wood or plastic, blued or stainless doesn't matter...



What would you guys go with?

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Quiet, 22 hornet.
Cheap, handi rifle, or Ruger American. So nobody will want to steal it, Savage Axis.


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This brand new Ruger M77 Hawkeye all weather stainless/synthetic in .243 is hard to beat, for $550.

http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?r=view&i=416779


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RAR Ranch 5.56 w suppressor. Take the suppressor in at night so theft don't become federal.


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A Howa isn't a bad move. Pretty decent quality, feeds from the top and you should be able to get one pretty easily under your budget.


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Sam, I bought a 223 in RAR a couple years back for exactly the same reasons you are looking to buy.

A little trigger work, barrel channel opening, and a new mag provided by Ruger and I'm pretty happy with this beater. I think they have the kinks worked out with the mags now and the new stocks on the RAR's are more rigid compared to the one I purchased.

Cheapest ammo I could find that wasn't FMJ

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I am not a real big fan of the Howa but they are a good value for the dollar. This one from Whittaker does not quite fit your barrel diameter wants but for $330 it would make a dandy truck rifle.

https://shop.whittakerguns.com/product/276

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Howa is a possibility....


Can you load the Ruger American from the top down?
(through the receiver?)

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The Ruger American uses detachable mags, but I have single loaded rounds and put them directly in the magazine. Not easy with the smaller ejection port.

But I don't consider that a negative. These little rifles are proving to be a great value. Between my brother and I we own 4. All shoot great.

Two Predators in 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor
One Ranch in 5.56 (this is what I think you want)
One Compact in 223.


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I've been considering a Savage Axis just for that.

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Years ago I went with a .222 to have less of a noise signature when hunting groundhogs. I found if someone is put off by a 243 they are t going to tolerate a 223 either and even my 218 bee wasn't much of a help. It isn't the decibels it's the gun shot period.

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Why do you want something you can load from the top as a truck gun ? I've carried alot of different rifles as "truck guns" and always considered ones with detachable magazines the best for that purpose. Keep a loaded mag in the center console and you can pop it in and chamber a round more quickly, with less fumbling than you can load a single round in a top loader.

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Originally Posted by SamOlson
Howa is a possibility....


Can you load the Ruger American from the top down?
(through the receiver?)


Howa 1500 is a no brainer. .223.

No. But you can single load from the top.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Why do you want something you can load from the top as a truck gun ? I've carried alot of different rifles as "truck guns" and always considered ones with detachable magazines the best for that purpose. Keep a loaded mag in the center console and you can pop it in and chamber a round more quickly, with less fumbling than you can load a single round in a top loader.


He doesn't live in that schit hole you do, you fugkin' moron.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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CDNN has the last of the Marlin XS7s in 243 on sale for $250.

CDNN also has some RARs on sale for around $350.

I have a few of the Marlin X guns and like them as issued, but a plus for me is that they have the same barrel specs as the small shank Savage 110 series, so swapping barrels is always easy and usually reasonably inexpensive.

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Pm me I have exactly what you are looking for.

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Thank you all for the informative replies.


Given that you are in a pickup when the dogs are spotted chances are they spotted you first and are on the run.


Time to start blazin' away!


I bought a heavy barreled AR for that very reason but it just doesn't make sense for a daily beater truck gun.


If there is a KNOWN problem then yes, but otherwise no.



Maybe a couple extra loaded mags sitting in the cup holder would be the way to go?


Ruger Predator is a heavy 22" 223.


Shorten(rethread) later on and add a can?







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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Why do you want something you can load from the top as a truck gun ? I've carried alot of different rifles as "truck guns" and always considered ones with detachable magazines the best for that purpose. Keep a loaded mag in the center console and you can pop it in and chamber a round more quickly, with less fumbling than you can load a single round in a top loader.


He doesn't live in that schit hole you do, you fugkin' moron.




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Another vote for Howa although if it were me it would be a CZ 527 Carbine. They're a little more money and magazine fed but they're one sweet little utility rifle.
18.5" barrel and a tich under 6#'s.

Oh yea.....the double set trigger is amazing.

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You don't need the Predator. The Ranch version has the same barrel profile in a threaded 16" barrel. I see them locally for $389 OTD. You can add a can if you need to.

My brother has this rifle and I'd have gone that way if it had been available. I bought one of the Compacts when they 1st came out with the standard weight 18" barrel. I later ordered a full length stock. Both of those guns will easily keep 5 shots under 1" at 100 with either 223 or 5.56 ammo. Using quality ammo of course. Expect 2" or so with cheap 55gr FMJ

I didn't expect much, but we've been buying Fiocchi 50 gr ammo loaded with V-Max bullets at Cabelas. 50 rounds @ $25. They shoot great even with the 8 twist barrels. I chronographed them at just under 3000 fps from my 18" barrel.


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