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Purchased the 452 from Buds. Overall very pleased. Wood better than expected with plenty of character. Trigger not as bad as expected. Minimal creep and overtravel, but a bit heavy breaking at repeatable 3.5# on my spring scale. Think I’ll go with the Basix after I pay my last speeding ticket. Bolt a bit rough sliding in along the rails, but I’m sure it will smooth out. Few tool marks on the bottom of cavity cut in the underside of bolt. Mounted a Weaver Classic Rimfire RV9 Scope 3-9x 32mm Adjustable Objective in medium Warne rings. Have a couple of these Weavers and they are hard to beat at $240 from Midway. Shooting at 50 yards. Few shots to get in on paper. Then five with CCI Standard Velocity, three with CCI Green Tag ( won’t try these again in this rifle) Ten with Federal Ultra Match, Three with SK Standard Plus (sucked). Many more types to try; keeping my fingers crossed on the cheap stuff. ![[Linked Image]](http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k161/eps842/452_zpsrnqkmuqm.jpg)
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Try a Yo-Dave trigger kit first for $20 and you likely won't spend the money on the Basix. It made my trigger very close to my Anschutz. When you switch ammo give it 30-40 rounds before deciding. Sometimes the barrel needs time to get conditioned to the new lube before it shoots its best. ClearRidge makes a scope that is very similiar to the RV9 that you might like a little more. It's a quality scope made in Japan. https://theopticzone.com/product/clearidge-ultra-rm-3-9x32-ao-duplex-dot-gloss-3360/Congrats on the 452. It's very hard to beat without spending more than $1000.
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That Ultra Match group is damn impressive.
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That Ultra Match group is damn impressive. It's also currently 1/2 off at midway
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when you switch ammo brands/types you may need to shoot 15 or so of the new brand before you shoot for groups. you could very well have misleading info if you just switch ammo and shoot a group or two with it and then switch to another ammo and so on and so on. just saying you may want to try to repeat those groups a little longer before making a big purchase.
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thanks for the heads up on switching. i have noticed in another rifle that it starts grouping much better by the third group after switch ammo. now i know why.
also thanks for the heads up on the scope. the adjustments with a coin on the weaver are pain.
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Ned, Think about it. You are shooting lead bullets. Any experienced lead bullet rifle shooter will tell you how sensitive bullets are to lubrication. Now go through the various types of ammo you just shot and compare the lube type on the bullets by rubbing them on your fingers. Quite a difference- especially between loads like the Federal and the SK which tend to have an oily wax on them. FWIW, I don't beleive that 30-40 shots are needed when switch ammo, but at least 10 rounds are. What model of CZ452 did you buy? I bought a Feb 2016 proofed 45w American last fall and it shoots like your rifle. I am very pleased with it. Keep that bolt clean and well piled. It will get very smooth after a while. 
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Bought a 455. Could not warm up to the backwards safety. Sold it.
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Jk 16,
It's the CZ 452 American that Buds sells. 2 digit code after the day proof mark is 16, (2016)
Thanks for the info on lead. Other than plinking with my 10/22 this is my first serious run at 22 long rifle shooting.
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Another Bud's 452 guy here. Very pleased.
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Don't own one, but I too must have a flush magazine and forward operating safety. Shot a buddie's and it did well. Not well enough, however, to have me dump my Rugers and Anschutes.
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1minute: My thoughts on the wonderfully accurate CZ line of rimfires is the same as yours - I simply will NOT buy a CZ with the bassackwards (unsafe!) safeties!
Period!
Then once they fix that they will have to correct the hang down in the way most all the time magazines.
Forward is fire - nothing else will do for me.
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I see folks post about the "backwards" safety and wonder why. If someone is confounded by it I wonder if they really should even be using a firearm. The "backwards" safety fire position is as intuitive as pulling back the hammer on an exposed hammer rifle such as a Winchester/Marlin lever gun, or a Colt single action.
To the CZ's credit their safety is a firing pin blocking safety, not a sear block safety which is more unreliable. I do not see it as an issue, particularly on a rimfire. I rarely rely on a safety anyway, if I have a round in the chamber I have the bolt forward and the bolt handle up - if I am going to take a shot I push the bolt handle down with my thumb as I am shouldering the rifle. It is not like we are dangerous game hunting here.
As far as the magazine hanging down - your beloved 541's are one of the worse offenders of this, not only that but they have a protruding magazine release that sometimes inadvertently releases and the magazine is dropped. However the CZ rimfires have a much more secure magazine release and I am unaware of that happening with them.
Personally I own both and all I am saying is that you are making both items into a bigger deal than they really are.
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I simply have my likes and dislikes. As long as someone in the market will service my likes, and I can afford it, I'll follow my personal leanings. Again, I find them accurate, but just don't care for them.
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1minute: My thoughts on the wonderfully accurate CZ line of rimfires is the same as yours - I simply will NOT buy a CZ with the bassackwards (unsafe!) safeties!
Period!
Then once they fix that they will have to correct the hang down in the way most all the time magazines.
Forward is fire - nothing else will do for me.
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VarmintGuy Didn't you know that it's the model 70's that are backwards. I love the simple CZ safety that visibly locks the FP. It's a shame that a guy such as yourself who enjoys rimfires so much is missing out on owning the best quality for the price rimfire on the market. I don't see any issue with the 5 round mags. They don't hang down any farther than my 64 action Annie. I doubt you will be lacking on good rimfires to shoot though. Just keep holding into the wind my friend.
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I see folks post about the "backwards" safety and wonder why. If someone is confounded by it I wonder if they really should even be using a firearm. The "backwards" safety fire position is as intuitive as pulling back the hammer on an exposed hammer rifle such as a Winchester/Marlin lever gun, or a Colt single action.
To the CZ's credit their safety is a firing pin blocking safety, not a sear block safety which is more unreliable. I do not see it as an issue, particularly on a rimfire. I rarely rely on a safety anyway, if I have a round in the chamber I have the bolt forward and the bolt handle up - if I am going to take a shot I push the bolt handle down with my thumb as I am shouldering the rifle. It is not like we are dangerous game hunting here.
As far as the magazine hanging down - your beloved 541's are one of the worse offenders of this, not only that but they have a protruding magazine release that sometimes inadvertently releases and the magazine is dropped. However the CZ rimfires have a much more secure magazine release and I am unaware of that happening with them.
Personally I own both and all I am saying is that you are making both items into a bigger deal than they really are.
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I also won't buy a backward safety gun. Can I adjust and use it? No doubt. However, I want consistency in how my safeties work. I have guns with tang, push button, bolt mounted, and receiver mounted safeties, two and three position. But dammit I want them how I want them. No pistols with slide mounted safeties, no bass awkward safeties, and no more that do not lock the flipp'n bolt closed.
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How about 10/22's, Ithaca 37, Remington 870,Marlin model 60, etc, does anyone refuse to use them because their safety is not a backware-forward safety, or is that different because they are not a CZ?
C'mon guys, I am ok with folks not liking a CZ for whatever reason but to blame it on a "backwards" safety just seem childish. We are rifleman here, if some are confused by something as simple as a safety that does not operate as your conceived notion of how one is supposed to operate then I am disappointed.
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I seldom use a safety anyway.. But when I do I am able to adapt pretty quickly even for an old guy!
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I seldom use a safety anyway.. But when I do I am able to adapt pretty quickly even for an old guy! Same here....it doesn't boggle me in the least and at my age I'm easily boggled. "Cock it to fire"....just like you would a firearm with a hammer.
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In the last couple months I bought a 452 [$385 wood] and 455 [$375 synthetic]. I have not done much with them but take the stocks off, look at the parts, and watch youtubes about how to switch barrels. I have been working on a 10/22 [$210 wood] this week. I put on a 9" twist barrel. It would not cycle SSS ammo. So I took off the heavy 17M2 bolt handle. It still will not cycle. I am about to radius the bolt. ![[Linked Image]](http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx220/ClarkM/Cz452%20Cz455%2010-22%203-28-2017.jpg)
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I love my 452.
Back in college, I bought it new, a CZ 452 'Silhouette'on a whim, as it was being clearanced out at the local shop.
I found a nice Burris 6x HBR scope on Ebay, which fit it well, and it seems to prefer Remington Subsonics, which it will stack into one ragged hole at 25 yards. It doesn't do bad with Remington Yellowjackets either.
The ONLY fly on that rifle is the stock. I am not a big synthetic guy, and it feels rather cheap. I have considered giving it a paint job reminiscent of the old B&C Carbelite Camouflage pattern. Or find a nice 452 American Walnut stock for it.
The pad on the original stock got kind of sticky/gummy too.
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got one of those burris 6x scopes, sitting on a mdl 597 remington.
the cz 452 wears a redfield rimfire and is very accurate.
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I also won't buy a backward safety gun. .. No pistols with slide mounted safeties, no bass awkward safeties... Back in the 1990s I order two Chinese Tokarevs from Shotgun News for $80 each. The safeties looked like they were tacked on by monkeys with a grinder. One was safe in the back, the other was safe when pushed forward. I was just junk added to get past customs. I took them off.
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