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Nice shooting. I'm just getting into the Raptors with my smaller calibers and I'm expecting great things! I have excellent accuracy wit the 150 FBR's in my 300 Weatherby.
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I can't see it killing any better than a TSX. That said, I rolled two running nilgai with the 250 gr Speer and the 250 gr Partition out of my 35 Whelen. Last elk hunt had the 140 gr TSX via 270 Win drop a bull elk at 250 yards within two steps. But, understand the loonyism...
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Ed, Loony stuff, no doubt about it... But this CEB ER Raptor shoots tighter groups than the 235 TSX in my gun, although the Barnes shoots close to an inch. You know, Loonies want a field gun with BR accuracy, even though we can't shoot BR groups without a bench rest and I don't find many bench rests out where I hunt... Can't get overly logical here... DF
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I can't see it killing any better than a TSX. That said, I rolled two running nilgai with the 250 gr Speer and the 250 gr Partition out of my 35 Whelen. Last elk hunt had the 140 gr TSX via 270 Win drop a bull elk at 250 yards within two steps. But, understand the loonyism... Dead is Dead can't get any Deader than dead.....what ever works best for you.... CEB's are made on a Swiss CNC....Barnes TXS's are stamped out....that's part of the reason CEB's shoot better.... I have 2 parcels of land to hunt a 64 and 60 acre fields the surrounding property owners will not allow me to recover a deer if it goes on there property....DRT is my only option and CEB's have fit the bill.....
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"the surrounding property owners will not allow me to recover a deer if it goes on there property..."
You certainly have some real nice neighbors.
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"the surrounding property owners will not allow me to recover a deer if it goes on there property..."
You certainly have some real nice neighbors. Yankees...? But, we have some like that down here. Hopefully not as many... DF
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I've been looking at trying the 300 grain CEB raptor in my .404. What do you guys think of that idea? Any idea what speed would be good?
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The 300gr CEB Raptors I mentioned using on the black bear were moving at a leisurely 2500fps from my 20" 416. Despite the low velocity, expansion and terminal performance was incredible.
In a 404 you will be able to get way more speed but even 2500 they just plain work.
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Mono's generally like speed but Raptors are engineered to perform at lower speeds, evidently they have a wide performance velocity window.
So, you won't need to "red line" them to get full expansion.
I've had some guns that wouldn't shoot them as well as others. But when they're good, they're very good...
And they kill stuff very dead...
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After seeing the posted results I may have to try some of these. Among others the 160gr .358's look interesting for my 350 Mag.
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They frankly surprised me, both regarding accuracy and terminal performance.
They kill with authority and shoot good doing it.
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After seeing the posted results I may have to try some of these. Among others the 160gr .358's look interesting for my 350 Mag. I will be using them in my .358 win this year for Kodiak deer and maybe my unit 13 caribou if I am feeling froggy.
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I've been looking at trying the 300 grain CEB raptor in my .404. What do you guys think of that idea? Any idea what speed would be good? Send a Email to CEB usually will get back to you in a couple days with load data....give them cartridge, barrel length and CEB bullets you would like to use..... tech cuttingedgebullets.com
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I posted this before. This is a chest shot sow that didn't run, fell DRT. I intentionally chest shot her to see how the .308, 135 gr. Raptor would perform. I generally shoulder/neck/head shoot hogs. You can see how chewed up the spine is; it wasn't in direct line of flight, the petals did all that. Her lungs and heart were messed up, too. I think this bullet performed as advertised. DF
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