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To call Doug Butler a "shoer", is the epitome of understatement!
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Originally Posted by ironbender
To call Doug Butler a "shoer", is the epitome of understatement!
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Lol....true and now class you see where most of these old time rumors and such come from.

"My dad always said".........etc. no offense to anyone's family but they're not always correct even though they believe what they're telling with all their heart.

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Originally Posted by ironbender
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I've seen white feet that are hard and strong. I've seen black feet that are weak, soft and shelly.

Research has been done on this (IIRC, by Doug Butler) and pigment, or the lack of it, is not the cause.


A white hoof tends to have thinner hoof walls.


Generalizations like that have no basis. Have you read Butler?


I don't know Butler, for that matter, I don't know the depth of the knowledge of horses on the Campfire, but if it is as full of holes as the rest of the information that is shared here, there is much room for misinformation.

All I know was this cowboy did know horses and when he told me light hooves were more prone to problems, I took him at his word for his experience. I'm sure he ate more horses than most of these drug store cowboys ever rode.


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Well, I'll just ask a simple question. Do you believe the genetic makeup of an individual can influence their type (ie do you think no one is more susceptible to defects or disease than the next due to their dna. If you do I'm sure AMA would be interested in your research)?

Has Butler performed conclusive genetic/dna research pertaining to the subject? He does seem to be a hell of a marketer, but didn't see anything on him as a research scientist. I don't know so I'm asking.

Until then, I'm going to hedge my bets by going on my experience.


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The information is available to anyone willing to do a Google search.

I have ever no interest in forcing you to believe the facts.


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If I may interrupt this disagreement briefly , I'll throw James Steward's horse, "Pie", into the mix.
Interesting in that the horse was Steward's own horse.


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I would have avoided the genetic makeup question too.


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Pie was quite the horse for Jimmy Stewart. I heard of this story and just found proof.

http://www.npr.org/2016/03/21/47128...e-horses-that-captured-moviegoers-hearts

"they just became so attuned to each other that in one film, "The Far Country," Stewart had developed such a rapport with him that he was able to get the horse to do something at liberty all by himself when the trainer was not around. They were on this location. The trainer wasn't on the set. And the horse needed to walk from one end of a street to another with no ropes on him or anything, and Stewart just went up to him, he said he whispered in his ear and told him what he needed him to do. And the horse did it. And everyone on the set was absolutely amazed, and Stewart just said, that was Pie. That's what he did. So he absolutely had an incredible bond with the horse"

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As to hooves, my two cents and worth half as much, though my farrier friends claim there is no difference in a dark hoof and a light hoof, from a lifetime of ranching and using horses in dry, rough country I will take a dark hoof every time over a light one. In fact, horses or cattle, I never turn down pigment.

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