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Great to see a real world comparison instead of just bc, wind drift and drop numbers on paper.
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I agree. I don't get the chance to test nearly as much real world as I would like right now. This is perfect to put it all into perspective for us weekend warriors.
Basically, the small gains don't make a difference until 500 yards.
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and the 308 load is now my favorite load in my Tikka T3 SL.
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Bump. just for something to talk about over the campfire....
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Damn, five and a half years.....where does all the time go?
The green .308 has been re barreled to a six creed....the .260 remains the same.
Maybe it's time to do a 6 Creed/.260 Pepsi challenge...
Lots of projects in the making.
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The black .260 is set up with 130 JLK's, and has been for the past couple years. A little better G1, and just as accurate. Seems to be the same results on big game as the Berger Hunting VLD....so far. 6.5 bullets have evolved quite a bit in the past few years. With a 1-9" I haven't been tempted to try anything heavier than 130gr class bullets through it. Although it might spin 135 JLK's fine, I just haven't had time to try them in that rifle yet. No flies on my .308's. I still have, and shoot several rifles in the configuration. Day in, day out, it's hard to beat the durability and longevity of a .308. My old Surgeon Scalpel has over 8,000 rounds of 155's through it, and still easily shoots .5 moa.
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Man, that’s a lot of rounds through the 308!
I have a couple 308s and shoot your load for the 155 secnar, and it’s accurate in every gun I fire it in.
Good to see it isn’t hard on barrels.
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A belated thanks to scenarshooter for all the good info, & to all that bumped this thread & kept it alive so I got to read it. I have 2 long range 260's & one .308, so I was soaking it all in. Good read!
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Pat,
Your load for the 308 is 46.5 gr's Varget?
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A belated thanks to scenarshooter for all the good info, & to all that bumped this thread & kept it alive so I got to read it. I have 2 long range 260's & one .308, so I was soaking it all in. Good read!
I started reading before worship service this morning but ran out of time. So, I tagged it.
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Thanks for the bump. Great reading. TV off. Trans Siberian Orchestra Christmas music playing. Cup of hot tea. Nice!
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Damn, five and a half years.....where does all the time go?
Lots of projects in the making. It sure doesn't seem that long. I still remember ordering my first 308 after shooting that green rifle. Time flies indeed.  If you get a chance, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts about the 6.5 PRC vs the 6.5 SAUM.....
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Pat,
Your load for the 308 is 46.5 gr's Varget? It's 45.5 grains Varget. McKay Sagebrush's is 46.5
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Pat,
Your load for the 308 is 46.5 gr's Varget? It's 45.5 grains Varget. McKay Sagebrush's is 46.5 And I shoot 48.5.
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Pat,
Your load for the 308 is 46.5 gr's Varget? It's 45.5 grains Varget. McKay Sagebrush's is 46.5 And I shoot 48.5. Manly men doing manly things and all that.
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Pat,
Your load for the 308 is 46.5 gr's Varget? It's 45.5 grains Varget. McKay Sagebrush's is 46.5 And I shoot 48.5. I don't think 48.5 would fit in Lapua brass...
Luck....is the residue of design...
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Awesome thread!!
I’m sad that it took me so long to stumble onto!
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Damn, five and a half years.....where does all the time go?
The green .308 has been re barreled to a six creed....the .260 remains the same.
Maybe it's time to do a 6 Creed/.260 Pepsi challenge...
Lots of projects in the making. The Creed vs the 260 would be a great read!
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